Easy... Easy... Easy... That's it

[Nakano15]

I still remember those times, where Tenet Chappel could kill the player by swarming monsters, and also those times where boss fights could take tiresomelly minutes, and also had a high chance of killing the player is the player does not beware.

But those times are now gone because they freaking nerfed it!!!
Almost bosses can be killed with ease by using Level 10 multi shot skill one or two times.

What happened to the bosses? What happened to the monsters?
Please fix it, boss fight is now something like a let it go than a challenge.

[Boudoux]

At lvl 210 this game shifts completly from a single player easy to faceroll game… to a more group oriented grind play… just get there.

[Nakano15]

I does not want to wait! I want it to be challenging from where it were!
Easy games are boring.

[Rhyzoh]

Even at end game the biggest challenge is game bugs and finding people or an empty ch

[Dream]

I does not want to wait! I want it to be challenging from where it were!

I have to agree with this. Dragon Nest was challenging already from the start, no facerolls. While in ToS, being low level is too easy that it’s somewhat offending as a gamer.

[Nakano15]

I have to agree with this. Dragon Nest was challenging already from the start, no facerolls. While in ToS, being low level is too easy that it’s somewhat offending as a gamer.

Yes, that’s the point.
On CBT 2 the game were harder, you could die to the Spectre boss on Crystal Mine 1f if you did not beware, and Tenet Chapel had swarming enemies that could kill the character with ease.

On the OBT, bosses can be killed in a couple of minutes with the character not being too much injured, and monsters are stupid.

[Dream]

And I can definitely relate to Multi-Shot facerolling I was also baffled how they made it too easy that Multi-Shot just one or 2 shots any boss at lower levels.

They might be considering full supports on the balancing but I think full supports should have a partner or group before they even think of building a no-damage character. Most other supports at least take some ranks that can help them do damage.

[Kurogane]

I envy all of you because you were able to play at CBT.

I don’t have any base to say this, but from what i saw 'til right now… this game is really easy.

[Hakku]

I played this game in CBT and it was beautiful, but extremely laggy and full of bots, so i left. Now i came back when i knew the bots and lag are gone, but i found this boring … boring easiness.
But the main problem is not that it is easy … i know they had to do it for de casual players. The problem is that i can go afk for 10 minutes with every monster in the dungeon punching my character and it wont die, it has more life regen than every dungeon’s monsters damage. And its only equip is the result from quests and im not full vit, and the dungeon suggested lvl is 5 more lvls than my char.

[killzin666]

go play dark souls or cuphead bro
bye

[Rikkalizer]

Hauberk kick my ass everyday even though i have 330 chara and full geared, dying is normal on high lvl content, just try get there first…

[sttr413]

its not a post about lategame content, it’s a post about low lvl content

ppl dont feel any challenge at start => ppl get bored and leave BEFORE they actually experience high end content (is there such a thing in ToS anyway? LOL)

previously, game was just very easy at low lvl, now, after all the rebalances, it is so easy at beginning it’s really offending

there was a problem with some high-end locations being too punishing for certain classes, but instead of nerfing some mobs they nerfed every freaking mob in the game for some reason… which makes no sense, really.

oh well… seen this before in other ded mmos

[Ersakoz]

sigh this is what happens when the devs diluted the game for casuals

Make it too challenging and we had people complaining:

Archer Monsters are extremely frustrating

Basically what it says in the title. Everytime I walk through an area which "ambush spawns" archer monsters, I get one-shotted by magical homing arrows. Please, wouldn't it make more sense to make these arrow attacks linear (as in, in a straight line) rather than homing missiles? It's extremely hard to fight archer mobs without heavy sustain because their attacks are simply impossible to mitigate.

[Rank 8] This powercreep is absolutely ridiculous

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerCreep When rank7 first hit, a lot was said about power creep. The base-damage of certain skills, such as Cannon Blast and Snipe, was brought up to argue that Rank7 classes were much too strong compared to everything else that came before them. To a certain extent it is true, but because of Attribute prices, weapon stats, and non-damage skills in each tree, it didn't turn out to be much of a problem. The most OP Rank 6 and 7 skills are major playe…

Dealing with high damage in rank8 maps

Hi there, I'm currently having problems with high level mobs (290), which deals a lot of damage. My HP decreases quickly as soon as 2-3 mobs rush against me. Being more specific, this little mob (physical attack 1 392 ~ 1 592) deals me a lot of damage forcing me to retreat if there are a couple of them. Other mobs don't do a lot of damage and I can handle them. I have 1100 physical defense (lvl 288) and 1000 magic defense, including gems with grynas for top and bottom + shade greaves for boo…

Level Penalty Damage. Nothing changed?

I have the feeling that nothing changed at all. Just doing a mission 9+ Levels and I get a lot of damage. Same as before.

Remove DMG-inrease of higher level mobs!

since the matchmatching is so fuckin trash, atleast remove the dmg-increase of higher lvled mobs. example: iam lvl 191 with 11k hp and i went into a mission....for some reason i got matched with lvl 205 players..... the result of this was that i had to fight lvl 205 boss mobs.... and they dealt, 90% increased dmg because of the stupid level penalty... result: i got oneshotet by almost every single skill.

Level Penalty Has Been Softened in kToS!

I have to share this so that ppl not gonna kick/reject underleveled player out of stupidity Note: it comes along with r8 release [Changes] 1. EXP Penalty due to difference between the monsters level has been changed. Character Level is > Monster Level - After a difference of 21 Levels the amount of experience gained decreases by 5% per level. At 40 Levels above you gain no EXP from the monster. Character Level is < Monster Level - After a difference of 21 levels, the amount …

Make it too diluted (2017) and:

Game too easy or what?

I'm playing full COOP with a friend, always stayin maximum 5 levels over the lvl area. We reached the church, now we're at the same area level... The full game, we are killing bosses in 10 seconds (archer lvl5 charged arrow machine gun, and can be used 2 times), and the bad point: we are literally receiving like 1 damage per each enemy attack... some lucky bosses can deal us 15 damage with a big attack... that's like 1% of our HP bar. It literally NEVER falls from 95% for any of us in ANY boss…

Why is the game so painfully easy?

Seriously, what is up with the difficulty? There is 0 challenge to this game right now. What is the point of moving forward if there essentially zero chance enemies (even in large groups) will do any significant damage. Field enemies are a joke, bosses are even worse. Is this something that is to be resolved? Is there a big update planned that would make the game a bit more challenging? Give some reason for being in a party and having a healer? I am still early on mind you, but my friends and I…

The game is easier than it should be at lower levels

After rework, today was the first day that I decided to start a new character. I have other 9 chars +300. Before the rework it always felt good to start a new char and test a new build. Even though the classes weren`t balanced, you could feel the progression of your build, try combos and etc. Sometimes you were required to link at the right time, cc enemies, heal. But now everything is gone, buy blessing(+1600 dmg) and hitkill any monster, including monster and boss outside or inside a DG(…

Generic PvE has been softened to cater to the casuals
any challenge is beyond 330
Stuff like ET/ farming /World Boss should be of some challenge. Not to mention some of the guild boss hunts

[steppenlord]

This. So much this. I am a new player and I was about to post something like this.
I mean, the game is enjoyable and you can level fast, but seriously, I’m lvl 70-80 and I still didn’t find any challenge at all.

If you say that it will become harder later I believe you, but what about now? Leveling is supposed to be enjoyable as well, and it still takes a while, especially the first time.
You can literally solo everything, even the first instance dungeon, with no risk whatsoever.

I swear, I tried 3 characters and never dropped below 90% hp (except maybe lv 50 dun where i dropped to …70%? And only because I aggro’ed groups). I don’t know what happens when you die. Did all the quests, and all the bosses, never used any pots, no heals, never had to rest. No reason to look for party, no socialization. And I didn’t even grind outside quests.

There are lots of bosses… yay, they’re just as useless as normal mobs, I highly suggest to buff AT LEAST them, to have some challenge once in a while.

[Musqi]

I see your point, but the problem with the monster rebalance is…

instead of nerfing some mobs they nerfed every freaking mob in the game for some reason

It’s not bad too make early game easy, because you need to learn and know the game first without having a hard time. But make it easy all the way up is not ideal.

[Ersakoz]

Yeah that is true. R8 was frustrating and people were so worried about power creeping etc. Look at where we are now…

Well , there are newbies wanting to learn the game but…

Most of them are “boosted” so heavily by the leveling events that they have no clue about the general mechanics due to the minimal exposure they have with other classes to actually learn anything. Most of the dungeons are rushed in a sense that you dont even need to run the dungeon >3 times to proceed to the next one.

Remember how pelts were so vital in dungeons run and this in a sense make ppl understand that , oh pelt is a class that taunts. Taunting draw mobs together for better kill efficiency. There were shouts for grind parties requesting various classes like chronomancer/healer to make grinding more efficient as well

hence:

No reason to look for party, no socialization. And I didn’t even grind outside quests.

Right now its every man for himself with their overpowered sacrament/blessing buffs rocketing throught the entire dungeons.

I really miss those days where players grind maps together and have met many people from my community this way. This might be the reason why my social circle in game consist mainly of older players.

[Sciguma]

As response to mine, which was the old mission level penalty: there is a difference between challenge and 1-hit-fiesta. At the beginning the game wasn’t challening at all but broken as ■■■■.The Rank 8 maps, apart from the 300k+ HP ones, were super cool. Those were challening especially the cave. That they reduced the HP of the mobs was totally fine but the rest uh… well it’s relaxing I guess if the grind wasn’t as retarded as it is.

[Ersakoz]

You can argue that 1hit finestra isn’t challenging and it leans towards to artificial challeng.

You had to do a lot of kiting and synergise team work to clear the mishekan one. Sage was like up on the must haves in every rank 8 quest line up. Those maps felt like true terror and felt really like end game. I mean like people had to plan ahead before entering those regions . World bosses were avoided there because the boss could summon packs of mobs which could wipe players in seconds .

For now , the storyline is just a theme park experience for players. Nothing to learn from doing quest. I really prefer it the old way where people had to shout for grind parties /mishekan

[repelant112233]

This happens when new players dont know how hard it was when r8 just came out. Ffs try farming the 315 wep materials way back. They hit you 6k++ and one shot you, even questing the new maps need 5 man pt

[burly]

I totally agree, and though I can understand making rank 1 content this easy for new players, even by rank 2 the game becomes… Just pressing buttons. You can pretty easily handle maps 20 levels higher than you with little issue, without bought buffs.

In my opinion, since they made klai route the intended route and force you to start there now, they should at least really increase the difficulty and exp/silver/drops of Orsha route just for fun and challenge.

Even scaling down shop buffs for low ranks won’t help at the moment.