We badly need an official statement regarding what the VAC Covers IMC

NightWlnd · April 21, 2016, 1:41am

i only use the Addon of Monster killing count and mapviewer because:

i think the monster killing count should have been at least an option to be activated that if you like the game counts how many monsters you killed. because the game dont tell you if you killed the amount of monster needed and even the amount killed isnt tracked inmediately you have to wait until the server update the killing count. that mean Opening the Journal, and keep pressing “search” until the count its updated.

mapviewer well, before i used that mod i wasnt certainly why i didnt get 100% of the map when i have explored everything, the problem its how the map counts such % of exploration the borders of the map i mean those black outlines, if map % would count only the beige zone of the map, then this wouldnt be a problem and that mean map % counting need a rework.

But seriously IMC we need an answer

Sushifox · April 21, 2016, 1:46am

I think any kinds of alterations of client should be forbidden, including mods. Otherwise it opens extra possibilities for botters and hackers to abuse it.

If people want XP display, kill count and other stuff, they should ask IMC to implement it.

tsigetartseht · April 21, 2016, 1:53am

I’d like that if only IMC responds fast to our inquiry ._.

I would actually like it if IMC adds those useful add-ons/mods as an official part of the steam workshop

That way, it’s totally legit and no problems will rise upon it.

Vanic · April 21, 2016, 3:00am

Because forbidding things totally stops those two groups of people.

skribble352 · April 21, 2016, 5:07am

I wonder why staff is not responding…

tsigetartseht · April 21, 2016, 5:49am

UPDATE BELOW! chars

skribble352 · April 21, 2016, 6:57am

This is not an update, we know that exp viewer is allowed, we are asking about better quest mod and monster counter and red map mods. And that quote was taken before VAC was put into place.

tsigetartseht · April 21, 2016, 7:00am

Well from what I understand, as long as the thing is considered an “add-on” and is part of the addons folder then it is not a mod and it’s legit.

As for betterquest, it’s a mod because I sincerely think it can be considered as what they mentioned as “excessive datamining” and directly tampers with the game’s data files through a method that prevents the launcher from overwriting the file that enables it.

If betterquest was to be turned into an addon the maybe it has a chance of being legit

Fuzzy · April 21, 2016, 7:02am

They really should make use of Steam workshop for addons.
Then they can explicitely allow and disallow addons for everyone.

NightWlnd · April 21, 2016, 7:04am

my only concern at least for myself its about expviewer (plus monsterkillingcount and mapexplorer) since i dont use betterquest i like to talk every NPC since that also adds to your journal of NPC meet.

and we also want to know about that if their stand is still the same about such addon because the VAC thing. they already said its fine but we still want to know if they still think the same about the addon expviewer (and the monsterkilling count and mapexplorer)

tsigetartseht · April 21, 2016, 7:13am

I’d like to know their stance on BetterQuest myself but I doubt we’d be getting a definitive answer anytime soon ._.

Staff_Julie · April 21, 2016, 7:29am

Mods are really in the gray area because as evidently stated on the terms of use, any modification to the game client is not allowed, but IMC is lenient on the ones that don’t give unfair advantages to players who choose to use them.

I don’t have a “final” official statement from IMC but I’ve gotten word that the following will not get you banned:
-EXP viewer
-Fog viewer

I’ll check again about BetterQuest.

tsigetartseht · April 21, 2016, 7:42am

Thank you for the response Staff_Julie!
I’d also like to have this confirmed:

Basically, it’s a pack of convenient addons that includes both the EXP Viewer and Fog viewer. It’s an all in one convenience so I’d also like to have the other mods inside them confirmed which are:

monsterframes - shows details about mob like specific amount of HP, race, armor type, and size.
monstertracker - tracks how much of the monster you have killed already and notifies you if you are eligible for a reward from Wings of Vibora for the mob kills.
channelsurfer - Allows one to switch between channels without being bugged by the confirmation window when activated.

NightWlnd · April 21, 2016, 7:41am

Juliet, you didnt say anything about the monster killing count. its banneable offense or no? since the only thing that addon do its just count the monster you kill for the XP card from wings of vibora. (since the game dont have this option to show how many monsters you have killed while killing them, only to check it trought the Journal which dont update quickly and its like a pause because players have to stop to check it).

Also its included with the package of Expviewer and Fog viewer. Just to be sure and clarification. Thanks

pop_coe14 · April 21, 2016, 8:00am

I assume the mod that show remaining wugushi pot / necromancer corpse would not consider unfair advantage right?

404BrainCrash · April 21, 2016, 8:50am

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thomastanchanco · April 21, 2016, 8:53am

Really hope @Staff_Julie Replies, cant proceed quest without the betterquest. Ill just stay at town and wait for her reply. :3

Sciguma · April 21, 2016, 9:12am

Exactly do not forget these please.

gun2theshock123 · April 21, 2016, 9:21am

Following this post for purposes

ae_q_q · April 21, 2016, 10:03am

My country worry about VAC they said "mod cant use becoz mod is modify clien and VAC will be got ban u "…SRY for bad english