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Offer Job Reset Please

General Discussion
#582

How is this any different from a person who has the ability to spam EXP tomes from the TP shop? Are EXP tomes also P2W? Are you serious betraying your own side and insinuating that simply making something more convenient/quicker = P2W?

The leveling speed difference is a STUPID argument because the difference isn’t even that big, and it’s non-existent if you level in a group which many people do.

In all of the P2W threads, people make it emphatically clear that it’s not P2W if you can earn it as well just with more effort needed. It’s a convenience.

Therefore leveling as something to job switch to something else isn’t in anyway an exploit, or abuse, or something to even worry about because it doesn’t affect you, nor does the option existing prevent you from doing it yourself.

Get the ■■■■ real.

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#583

How I think is pretty simple: I planned my class out in advance using information gleaned from videos, the wiki, and questions asked to others about how abilities performed at max level. I discovered an interesting combo during my browsing, and built a character around it.

I believe I deserve a better character than the people who didn’t go the same lengths, and, if people want to copy my build, I believe they deserve to start over to do so. If they don’t have time IRL to do so, then too bad for them. They should have been more careful in their planning if they knew they only had one shot at things.

The only form of circle reset I would ever support is circle-specific resets awarded by the developers if/when they change a class so drastically that it no longer serves the same purpose/key abilities no longer do the same things at all. I do not think circle resets should be usable to escape from nerfs, allowing players to pay their way into the meta, patch after patch.

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#584

What? How does that make sense? Think about this for a moment. If there is no class reset option, at least partial, it means that experimentation will be punished. If making a mistake somewhere means a reroll, everyone and their cat will go for the meta builds to avoid wasting time. No room for mistakes, no room for experimentation.

If there is an option to reset, people may still end up going for the meta builds, because that’s what people do, but that’s a problem with class balance and not the reset feature itself. Only good balance will lead to good build diversity. But here’s the thing; some people will experiment. Isn’t that an improvement?

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#585

Of course Exp tomes are P2W. Why even play if you want convenience? Just get the BOTS to play for you.

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#586

Halleluah, there is still logic left on this forum. I was beginning to feel like I was going crazy.

#587

Dont feel like typing the same thing so ill do this.

With class resets people will just repec from their cookie cutter onto the next one every patch. This game isnt about being at endgame and living there like some people want.

As for not having to throw your character away, i like this option.

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Say Yes to job reset
#588

Mistakes? What mistakes?.. Oh you mean, ideas?
Yea sure, we have those. And some players will stick with them to find where their build can fill a specific roll.
On the reset world though, it’s a mistake that you then correct towards the meta. Meaning you have a fixed amount of builds that are non-mistakes. How is that more diversity?

Besides, I don’t see people spending RLM for experimenting purposes.

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#589

I believe this thread was started for sole purpose of getting more people to buy circle reset when it comes out in shop. The circle reset and other convinient resets are guaranteed, it’s your choice to buy them or not. The moment tp shop come out you should have already known there will be many things that p2w will need.

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#590

Read again the post you replied to. It answers your question.

That can be prevented. There are various suggestions on how to do it that can be found in this very thread.

#591

You can’t try your hand at that level of argumentation unless you put the extra effort into both posts, or sides. Otherwise it just makes your attempt looks silly.

Atleast you managed to get my attention back, unlike the Flamebait Brigade. I suppose that is something.

#592

NO

Reroll if you want the meta.

Adapt or reroll. Simple as that.

#593

class reset pls… theres no way i will reroll a lvl 200+ char with 300+ hrs spent on it. thats insane. only ppl with no life will reroll//

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#594

300 hours? Lol, it takes two weeks to do a 220+ char. You should learn how to play, maybe then you wont need reroll or reset.

#595

I made extensive research on my class and I still got f*cked, I made and archer watched videos after videos, found out the hard way that kneel shot and burrow takes your ability to use 99% of all your hard earned skills while in that mode. I made extensive research on a necro, found out the AI is mentally challenged, Skelletons cant be resummoned at location if they bug out, flesh hoop has 15 damage counters. I did extensive research on a pyromancer read many forums and threads, did not know how useless my fireball was with 4 melee players in my party… the point I’m making is at the moment circle resets are really needed because IMC is lacking in the description of the classes skills.

If all descriptions were in informative detail I don’t think many people would be annoyed by this, also telling people to like their crappy build or gtfo is by far the most backward thing yo can say to the populace, its like saying you don’t want any new content everytime you shoo lots of players.

#596

some people like to take their time socializing / playing the auction house / looking at TP store / making friends, not everyone chugs redbulls and goes on 24/7 grinding sprees.

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#597

So like it or gtfo?, again the most backwards thing I have read on these types of forum threads, you are literally telling people you don’t want content because last I heard more players = more income = more content.

#598

To close this argument EASIEST way to fix all this drama is here =

ADD A FEATURE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LOG INTO A TESTING SERVER WHERE PLAYERS CAN BE MAX LVL (280 at the time) HAVE ALL THE JOBS AVAILABLE WITH UNLIMITED CLASS RESETS, SPAWN THEM IN A HUGE MAP WITH ALL TYPES OF MOBS : FLYING MOBS / GROUND MOBS . MINI BOSSES / WORLD BOSSES / HIGH DENSITY MOBS.

And there you have it all this drama shiet is gone for ever and ever…

Thumbs up if you think this is the true and endgame solution to this bickering.

#599

Then i cant understand, why those people need better build via reset? Go and socialize with current stats and skills, see no problems. The only thing why ppl need reset is laziness, need to get everything in one click. I mean we are all on an equal conditions.

#600

did you even bother to read my solution?

#601

Endgame solution -----> ~add job reset don't add job reset solution~