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#113

And I’m saying you don’t need the feature to enjoy the game.

If you think dealing with bots on an open market will be fun then you should consider playing an mmorpg that’s promotes this kind of economy. IMC is trying it’s best to avoid this scenario, they are aware they are sacrificing the social aspect of 1:1 trading.

I’ve used this system in ktos. I just don’t see why I can’t trade my cosmetic items across characters if I have a token. It’s silly. I would swap cosmetic items countless times whereas equipment I’ll only trade once or twice due to the potential cost.

Because this game has a class system with 4 different playstyles it isn’t that bad. Because you will not use the same weapon on each character however…

But not being able to trade sets of armor if I spent a lot of money and time to get +15 gear with high-level gems. Why is it I can’t swap them around my characters without losing potential?

The only thing i can understand from this design decision is that IMC doesn’t want players to profit from buying and reselling items. But I think not being able to trade gear among your own character’s is a very real issue for players that have spent hundreds or thousands of hours playing the game.

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#114

If we really loose potential even when trading among our own characters then this completely breaks my idea to farm for items. So, I like the wizard classes and I spend a insane amount of time to create a awesome weapon. I collect the recipe…the items needed to craft it, I upgrade the item to +12…but unfortunately the potential dropped to 0 due to bad luck when upgrading. I will now use the item on my wizard…but I can never give it to my future wizards cause I can’t trade items with 0 potential… This sucks. It annoys me a lot I have to admit …

#115

There’s a lot of high level weapons with more potential than others. You can also plan your upgrade attempts around having 1 or 2 potential remaining so that you can pass it around your account for future characters. I hope this lessens your frustration. :slight_smile:

#116

Yes, you can. You just need to create in the same server as them.

#117

But each trade via the shared storage will still decrease the potential by one. In Ragnarok (yeah…it’s getting old to compare RO with ToS) I had about 8 ninjas and whenever I would play one of my ninjas I first had to take my equipment from my last active ninja, put it in my storage, and then equip it with the ninja I actually wanted to play. This won’t be possible in ToS…and it’s annoying. It makes hard farming for stuff really unrewarding. You know you won’t keep using that awesome item for long cause you will get something better some day…this alone is not bad…but if I can’t even give this item, which I invested a lot of time into, to one of my other characters then I call it pretty much bullshit. Nobody wins here. I can understand many things in ToS that still annoy me a little…but this is just something that should simply not exist… I really hope loosing potential when using the shared storage is not really a thing. It would prevent farming to prepare future characters and would lead to rushing to the endgame as quickly as possible… It’s a weird design decision

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#118

As there’s no clear end game and each character you will be investing hundreds of hours to reach max level I wouldn’t be too worried at this point in time.

In future we might be given a limit of (5),(10) account trades without losing potential for when there is a clear end game.

We need to see what content IMC are planning for us.

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#119

Actually I can understand reasons behind such restrictions.

Merchant classes are designed the way so they can increase THEIR OWN wealth, not accounts AND to sell gooda to your guilds. Yet they can still buy items for account losing potential.

If you could freely give/take items inside your account(without losing potential) merchant classes would’ve been OBLIGATORY for competitive play.

But item giving/taking between players/characters should be free (with potential loss though). Silver trading shouldn’t be possible at all aside from market.

Maybe add 3 item trading/warehouse slot and +2 for token users with 5 interplayer transactions per month with 30 for token users. And give us the ability to purchase trading/warehouse slots for silver.

#120

Bump, because that’s exactly my opinion.
Disabling gem-dropping would be very clever, how many players losing theses I saw during iCBT2…
They could increase weight limit too.

edit : theses would be token bonuses, if it wasn’t clear.
@BlaXun talked about trading without potential loss too.

#121

Please allow us to trade silver like every mmo. Please. @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_John @STAFF_J all I want is to give my own characters silver, why do you encourage the use of team account if you can’t even transfer your own silver ?

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#122

If the token would at least disable the potential decrease when trading… Without a token you should be able to trade and even be able to use the shared storage…WITH a
Token effect it should disable the potential loss. Why wasn’t it implemented like that?

#123

Trade and share items allowed only with Token basically kills the concept of alt money characters like Pardoner and Alchemist since you won’t be able to pass the money to your main PvE/PvP class…

#124

I don’t like these suggestions personally. You can put gems in the storage, if you choose not to think for yourself and you drop gems in a dungeon it’s because you chose not to store your gems safely.

Never had issues with weight limit though.

That’s a fair suggestion. There’s a lot of pros and cons to consider and most likely will be bad for the economy.

I understand what you meant. Just not sure about the suggestions. They aren’t things you think about enough when you play the game.

#125

It would be a token bonus, if it wasn’t clear.

#126

A better bonus then most “bonuses” u get from the token right now

#127

This is more like a Pay2Win feature than a luxury though.

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#128

I agree that bonus is 2 strong. But sadly i would rather have that then the joke of a trade system we have currently.

#129

But right now it’s just “everybody looses”. I prefer to pay for benefits…right now everybody will loose durability… Those that don’t pay can’t even trade…those that pay can trade and will loose durability… I somehow think one of the pay items will be a scroll to reset a items potential again.

#130

Aren’t we talking about trading potential loss ?
That’s hardly what I would call p2w…

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#131

god i hope not.

20 charcaters

#132

I think it’s the next logical step…