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Unofficial Rogue Nerf Megathread + Class Discussion

how bout Lachrymator this skill ?

Totally forgot about this skill … It’s fine for crowd control I guess in some situations. It can do abit of damage too by learning it’s attribute.

Some stuff about [lachrymator].

  1. The damage from the attribute is fixed. If you have lv 1, the skill will do 1 damage per tic. Elemental damage works. Bless works (forgot to check sac).

  2. It does not affect flying or bosses.

how many levels would you recommend me to get btw ?

IMHO, I would say 1. If you are sure you have 9 more points to spare then go for 10 because it more than doubles the duration. It has a 60 sec cd though. 8 sec is more than enough to cut down a dungeon pull to a manageable size.

As for the attribute, you can skip it entirely. I mean seriously, what is 100 damage every 2 sec (basically 400 damage) at the lv you reach rank 6 (btw that lv 176-177 give or take a few lvs). It’s a waste of silver unless there is some amazing combination it has with something.

It would be more accurate and realistic to include the “unload” time of all 5 over heats. So its practically 1000%+3200 every 10-12s? depending on ping -just a feed back, great job overall

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I was actually planning to add this earlier but I thought, even if this was taken into consideration, Twin Arrow is still clearly the winner and the fact that you get Multi-Shot Lv15 and Swift Step: Critical makes it overall the better choice compared to investing more ranks on Ranger.

Giving it a final chance,
Twin Shot technically having 11s average cooldown due to casting animations. (1000%+3200)/11s
= 91%+290 damage per sec.
While Spiral Arrow technically having 38s average cooldown due to casting animations. (1200%+2160)/38s
= 31%+57 damage per sec.

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so archer c2 vs ranger c3,which one is better?crt on swift step looks very good too

Since you’re already Ranger C2, there’s not much really other choice than to go for Ranger C3.

hmmm thanks. btw do u know how arde dagger works on.archer with no fire attack?i see alot of them using it

Arde Dagger’s 153 fire attack adds up to every legit hit you do. For example, for each arrow of Barrage, Arde will add 153 fire damage to each. If the damage was originally 1000, it becomes 1153 each.

wow i thought its not additional dmg…and how about scouts fluflu, i try to cc.the mobs and its useless…they still attack me

You need to go invisible after casting Flu-Flu to see it’s full effect.

……wow kk,i thought its like a hard cc, at least fears

It also saves your whole party against dungeon mages(like the 190 dungeon), they literally just stand inside the smoke.

On your other notes, pretty much the saving grace of my rogue c2 was my Archer c3. It allowed my musketeer to deal burst and consistent DPS. Having feint lvl 10 allows me to have minimal dex but still have 100% crit rate.

My twin shot allows consistent semi-burst/dps during the downtime of my musketeer skills.

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hey dream can you also give some gearing tips? like what should you get before hunting WBs. and from what level you should be getting good gears? if you can point out some good and not hard to get archer gear that would be great!

Cafrisun Set is fine to use until you can switch to Roxona. Rokas Leather Armor can stay, no need to replace. Roxona Leather Pants isn’t worth it either so you can just use white gear for that.

For weapons, Seimos Crossbow + Arde can be a really good start. Khasti Bow is a very cheap 2H-Bow at Lv170 even though it comes with nice stats.

Honestly, it’s best you stop there first and focus on upgrading attributes up to around Lv50-70 before investing on gears again.

You’ll probably want a Khasti bow by level 170, it’s useful even at levels 230 and above. I still use it as my main bow at 235.

A strength pendant will also work great from early to mid-late as it gives you damage and crit damage.

These 2 items are VERY easy to get. Khasti bow/recipe is pretty cheap if you’re having difficulty farming it.

thank you and Dream, helpful!

Rogue is viable for Quarrel c3 ??