Different timezones, mate
26 July for you, 27 July in Asia (Telsiai) when that was posted. We’re 12 hours ahead of the server time.
You missed some very, very, basic things.
Edit: For the dense - Announcement was posted on the MORNING of 27th of June in Asia (GMT +8 and higher), while it appeared in the EVENING 26th June, for anyone in US timezones (GMT -4 and below).
Anyone can clear this for me? according to the “updated RMT POLICY” this mean that if i RMT the first time i will get a warning but keep my items and silver? and as long i dont do that again until 3 month have passed i can still do it again and get a first warning? that dont seems ok. because tbh it sounds like i can RMT every 3 months.
i though the RMT policy was to discourage players to buy gold from third parties, the previous one were okay, but the updated ones dont discourage people at all because looks like they have certain time frame to buy RMT without being punished and only one warning.
i also agree the first warning should include the seizing of items and silver, there is no reason for them to keep it as it the first warning, and more if they want to discourage people to buy silver.
Wait, are you seriously trying to argue against reality here?
He bought before the announcement was posted, on the 26th, according to server time (Website time). To him, it is already the 27th (Asia time).
Edit: Oho, you removed that. Understood timezones now?
Really, are you working for IMC, now?
Just like defending the fact that minimum market value is calculated based on GAME MECHANICS, and not magic RMT whales?
Lorf.
Oh, you’ll be surprised at what people will do for PVP 
Allowing player policing has always been a bad idea.
Only MMO which that… ‘worked’ is EVE-Online, and that is in complete free-for-all regions where you can gank them. (And they lose all of their equipped gear, in TOS terms).
Someone tried to RMT and argued exactly about the warning:
They failed miserably, banned for 30 days and no room to appeal.
There could be more non-disclosed conditions for the real punishment. And they don’t need to publish these since the very act is against Terms of Service which not complying to can get you a permanent ban right on first time.
You’re still arguing against reality, fyi.
What i’m trying to tell you is this. And i’ll use a very very basic example, which you conveniently provided an image for.
Assuming announcement was posted at:
That would be 30th June, EDT. That would -ALSO- be, 07:28 AM GMT+8 1st (FIRST) JULY (Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, and CHINA).
So, yes. He could have bought it on the 27th HIS TIME (Telsiai, so i’m not wrong in assuming his timezone is at least positive on GMT), which is 26th SERVER TIME.
You’re assuming that he bought it on the 27th SERVER TIME.
Sigh.
Edit: For the others - I’m not arguing that the person in question (the RMTer) isn’t wrong.
I’m against wrong information and agenda-pushing
I’ll defend anyone, for what it is worth.
Edit2:
From my example, if I bought a McDonald’s meal right now, I can state that I bought one on the 1st of July (my time).
For you US folks, saying that I bought one on the 30th of June (your time) is also correct.
The timezone specification is important in the case of any multi-national (global) context. Not including it will cause misunderstandings, like what i’m trying to correct here. Telsiai has been, and still is, a SEA located server. This also means that at least 95% of the players here (allowance of 5% for folks originally present in SEA, but moved to the US/UK) follow the GMT+6 to GMT+11 (Aus, Tasmania) timezone.
No, I’m just following what he claims + in-game delays. EDT to GMT+8 have 12 hours difference (Sorry, I forgot google doesn’t recognize the +8 when searching “edt to gmt+8”).
Just take 30min - 2h30 from item showing up on market + how long my reports stays up for more than a day, like this one:
You can for sure say that his items were listed on market by when the Policy was announced.
Now consider he already broke Terms of Service which disallows RMT and has higher value than this Policy = ban.
Edit:
And they did complain about not receiving a warning, which is the first item of the policy.
How Kawaiiiiiii ! 
But can you two sweethearts maybe makeout in PMs?
haha 2 humans dont understand 1 thing
who cares about time update, or you think before this no one buyer not banned or what?
who allow buy silver before 26 or 27?
Its normal ban like 1 strike, after this this human dont buy silver anymore 100%
I propose do it with any buyer, because if no one buy, no sellers
bots dont care about him accounts, but if you make a severe punishment for buyers, sellers gone, because normal player dont need lost acoount
this is exactly what im terribly trying to say
As shown previously on the thread: Someone complained about not getting warned but instead received a ban on their first case. There could be more non-disclosed factors.
While it looks like they can get away with it the example shows that IMC won’t just let you get away trying to justify a loophole.
dude that was before this change lmao. but what i dont understand is how you think they can NOW instantly ban you and it not be a Breach… or ban you 4 months instantly first strike from your last and it not be a breach… if this is the case the player is 100% in the right lol
@seiran addendum that man only received a 30 day ban what a joke last year as well how is this relevant? even in the slightest? they can now NOLONGER up and give someone a 30 day ban they HAVE to give them a slap on the wrist (warning) for first offense. what dont you get? his previous infraction falls under grounds of the previous poiicy NOT the current he in this case is in the wrong.
you know what i dont even play this game anymore management for this games a joke dont @me im outta here good luck with the whales, tell Shamu i say “what up”
I don’t get what part of the Terms of Service I linked multiple times already.
IMC holds the right to suspend your account permanently or temporarily at their will. One of the main reasons for this result is not complying to the terms of service which covers the RMT topic.
The ToS is what you agreed on when you started playing and its priority is higher than the policy.
Nonetheless:
In order to assess the new measures during this first phase and decide on how to continue improving our policy on RMT, we will be closely monitoring the operation’s results as well as players’ feedback and suggestions.
We already gave strong feedback which, considering the evolving state of the current policy, could be already added into IMC plans for the future phases before IMC defines a final state, which still works under the Terms of Service - and thus, still allowing your account to be suspended for conditions non-disclosed on the policy.
Now, why can I affirm this? Because Terms of Service IS a legal contract, valid for courts, and you agreed on not RMTing and that not complying to do so you accept to have your account suspended from the service at any given time.
There’s no breach if you agreed and clicked “Yes, I agree.” after “reading” EULA and TOS before playing. That’s how it works.
If you think you found a loophole in the policy, prepare yourself to regret it, since in your “best case scenario” this policy is intended to change based on player feedback and how well it works. All items listed after 31 June can be considered even for future revisions with an retroactive effect.
Not that I’m particularly angry or against it, but are we really defending rmt’ing now? Lol
@Amber_Rei Some of us just don’t like others jumping to conclusions 
It ain’t right to stack accusations on someone, y’know? I defended the +40 shield dude too
Innocent until proven guilty (of each offence) and all that.
The way I see it is, if they were serious about banning the “problem RMTers” they wouldn’t have given them a warning. They should just shadowban… but they didn’t. Someone who buys silver also likely to buy TP as well. This is why they gave out a notification and a policy update news letter. Alot of these “problem RMTers” keep this server alive. The real problem isn’t RMT, why shouldn’t we be allowed to transfer value between characters? The problem is BOTTERS. Deal with the problem at the root.
Ah, yes, the problem is the botters making sure that you have a supply of silver to buy. 
The ones who would have no reason to exist if you would stop buying silver.
Not the right word to use here. Shadowban would mean that you were banned without you knowing it–not really possible in a videogame. You just mean that they should ban without making an announcement or ban silently. But people need to know that actions are being taken. It’s been too long and too many people have quit over this and stopped supporting IMC because RMT was never handled. Now it’s being handled, now people are aware of it, and it’s likely that a lot of those players burned over others effectively cheating return.
