Offer Job Reset Please

[vivid.vandal]

We’re not talking about acceptable things like choosing driving over walking. If you had a report to do, and say you didn’t do it because your lazy, thats not an excuse.

Or in our cases, Its not acceptable to add resets because we were too lazy to do research.

This problem could have been avoided. Some games just can’t go without research. Its part of the game.

You know what ? Last beta more then half of skills/atributes did not work like it was described and i didn’t saw any larger QQ.

Youtube - skill calcs - forum - trying skills yourselfs <---- THAT’S THE BEAUTY OF THE NEW MMO so please don’t cry and just play, keep gathering info. Skill/atribute don’t work ? Let the IMC know that and w8 for fix. You $%^&* yours build? SO TAKE LESSONS FROM THIS FAILURE AND MAKE NEW PERFECT CHARACTER FOR YOU.

Gosh… this new generation of players…

too lazy to do research eh? research what? KR TOS? Want me to play the game when I shouldn’t and make life harder for KR players? Or maybe you want me to search for forums full speculation about builds? Or maybe you want us to decipher bad translations? Or maybe you want us to do ALL of that even though KR TOS is a different game than what we are playing?

You seem to think that we are just playing KR TOS with an english patch. You think they are exact copies of each other don’t you? all the stats are the same huh? The info we might be “researching” is never out-dated or flawed huh? games never patch right? day one is the same game forever. you are an actual idiot

[Gringe]

Well, the fact you can customize your stats and cant reset your class is what is similar to diabl2o and grinder mmos to me. IDK how many people agree with me on this, but the combat feels a little similar also? I havent played diablo 2 for a while.

The game would completely change if people can change classes easily. There would essentially be only 4 classes and you can just switch your build up whenever. Right now with the unforgiving class choices, there are a large variety of class combos that i have seen. People would just do a leveling build, then switch to pvp build. Switch to earth tower build. All the uniqueness of this game would be lost and it will just be another generic mmo.

Please dont try to say “if you dont like class resets, dont use it. It wont affect you”. The reason i dont like it because of what i mentioned above. It doesnt matter if i personally dont use the reset.

I just feel like the people who want the resets cant be convinced otherwise. I dont know how to explain why i liked the older mmos without resets better. Each person has their own identity and arent copies of eachother? Maybe the ones who want it never had the joy of experiencing the older mmos and how unique they are. Right now all the modern mmos feel the same to me and cant hold my interest.

[ShyBoo]

The information is still there, heck there was even an announcement saying what we have from kr. (some kr patch notes)

So this auto becomes invalid. (Peice kr patch notes we got into the current information we have on the forums… Voila! nice fitted build fits in your pocket, take it home and sleep with it like a teddy bear.)

[IceCold]

The game would completely change if people can change classes easily.

Define easily please.

[Gringe]

Pretty much anything less than what I posted earlier… Ill post it again. Click the link to see it.

Offer Job Reset Please

Since there is now another thread on this, ill post the suggestion that I would be ok with again.

[Dream]

Oh please link me these patch notes you’re talking about especially the one related to rogue’s ninja nerfs Rogue C3 Feedback

Also please link me a KR patch note or any current information here on the official forums that lists all available/unavailable skills while using Burrow.

So I can finally have this “Voila” moment you’re saying, a nice fitted build that I can take home and sleep with like a teddy bear.

You know what I really hate the most? People who thinks they know everything.

[Moonspring]

You know what I really hate the most? People who thinks they know everything.

You must hate yourself most of all then.

[Dream]

You must hate yourself most of all then.

You have some serious issues.

[Moonspring]

…okay? I guess I will leave the thread here. Getting a bit too much even for me. Best not to continue feeding trolls.

[ShyBoo]

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[Dream]

Thanks. It definitely included Rogue’s ninja nerfs and the list of skills available/unavailable when using Burrow. Will definitely have a proper build now and get comfy sleep.

[vivid.vandal]

The game would completely change if people can change classes easily. There would essentially be only 4 classes and you can just switch your build up whenever. Right now with the unforgiving class choices, there are a large variety of class combos that i have seen. People would just do a leveling build, then switch to pvp build. Switch to earth tower build. All the uniqueness of this game would be lost and it will just be another generic mmo.

Please dont try to say “if you dont like class resets, dont use it. It wont affect you”. The reason i dont like it because of what i mentioned above. It doesnt matter if i personally dont use the reset.

And how does their class change affect you? Please explain HOW. if you get your butt kicked in pvp, you can’t blame their class reset. What other people do with their characters in this game, does not affect you. And so what if some builds PVE then switches to PVP? how is that bad? Are you afraid of competition? If so, why mention pvp?

It doesn’t matter that people are copies of eachother, if that is the case, that is IMC’s fault for not balancing well. NOT your fault or the person who decided to change classes fault or the clones or the people going for the OP build. So please don’t give me that crap like its the communities fault.

IN FACT! by not having class resets, they are encouraging people to pick OP builds and not try things out. I thought I explained this beofre. How is the option to reset circle a bad thing? You act like these are going to be free or super cheap. You act like every player just has money to dump on these things and just do it non stop and flip flop all over the place when there is no reason to think it will be cheap. Skill resets arent cheap chump change to be buying every day.

[Gringe]

The game would completely change if people can change classes easily. There would essentially be only 4 classes

Game changed.

there are a large variety of class combos that i have seen.

Everyone would use the same builds depending on what your doing. Game changed.

People would just do a leveling build, then switch to pvp build. Switch to earth tower build.

Game changed.

dont know how to explain why i liked the older mmos without resets better. Each person has their own identity and arent copies of eachother?

No player identity with your class builds. Game changed.

Game changed = me affected.

Look, if you dont understand yet i wont be able to say anything to get you to. It does affect everyone though even if you dont use them.

With current class system, you could be identified as a link3>sorc. Thats who you are. With resets everyone is a wizard.

[ShyBoo]

I think your mistaken, a game mechanic (like in your case) isn’t something that can really be mentioned beforehand, Its something that has to be found out.

The availability of skills depending on the weapon can be found out by looking at tosbase, but its not like you’ll hear things like, hp and sp pots weigh 10 per so dont buy a whole bunch or you’ll be forced to walk.

In your case, It really does need to be found out by researching from someone who it also happened to, or you need to find out yourself.

[Jintello]

Hahaha its not about being afraid of anyone its about the fact you want no risk maximum reward gameplay. You SHOULD be held accountable for which classes you choose.

@Dream over here found out their cut cookies were not as OP as they thought so they want to be able to erase their mistake and redo their character. Well go make a new character and use the other one to farm. Its not difficult. If you dont’ like burrow then reskill and use a new one.

@Zipzo here went double rodelero into dragoon and found out he made a terrible mistake. I can only wonder what mistakes everyone else begging for a job redo want.

The only legitimate way I can see a job reroll being acceptable is if they remove a class like they did for centurion or if they rolled the character back the appropriate levels depending on how many ranks they drop. As in If you are rank 6 and roll back 3 ranks you will now be the actual level you would have been at that rank.

[Takemi]

I’m against the idea of class resets, but I can understand the arguments for them.

Personally, I enjoy the risk of experimentation–and the successes or failures that come with it; I want my actions to have permanent consequences.

[IceCold]

Here I thought you had some context when using “easily” with resets. You proved me so wrong!
I was gonna ask you about RNGs and if you were playing the game for fun or some GREAT achievement. Hey but don’t answer.

[Dream]

IN FACT! by not having class resets, they are encouraging people to pick OP builds and not try things out.

This.

It’s like 99% of Archers I see all went Ranger C3 > Fletcher C3. The strongest meta currently for archers on KR. While almost all wizards and their moms are Wizard C3 > Elem C3 > Warlock.

[vivid.vandal]

The game would completely change if people can change classes easily. There would essentially be only 4 classes

Game changed.

vivid.vandal:
there are a large variety of class combos that i have seen.

Everyone would use the same builds depending on what your doing. Game changed.

vivid.vandal:
People would just do a leveling build, then switch to pvp build. Switch to earth tower build.

Game changed.

Gringe:
dont know how to explain why i liked the older mmos without resets better. Each person has their own identity and arent copies of eachother?

No player identity with your class builds. Game changed.

Game changed = me affected.

Look, if you dont understand yet i wont be able to say anything to get you to. It does affect everyone though even if you dont use them.

i didn’t say any of this. but i guess you used the quote function wrong.
i don’t think you will concede anything and rather allow the decisions of others that don’t affect you, affect you.

[Gringe]

I quoted myself from your post. Thats just how it shows up.

I also added this: With current class system, you could be identified as a link3>sorc. Thats who you are. With resets everyone is a wizard.

I guess you cant understand how changing the game affects everyone who plays it.