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[Legacy Guide] [Outdated after Re:BUILD patch] Hackapell & Rogue Class Lounge

Anything can go “end game” when you reach a certain def/mdef and attack

If you want to do ET and Fantasy library Hacka isn’t the class for it,make something easier like Wizard or Cleric.

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Some examples for you. You may adjust skillpoints if you want.
Hackapel lacks AoE attacks. PvE is about AoE mobbing.
Hackapel single target damage isn’t great.
The greatest features of hackapel are: [mount bonus], [mount dash] and [sword off-hand gem socket slots].

Prepare to dismount & remount a lot.

Single target builds
Archer2 Ranger2 Fletcher3 hackapel. Very strong bosser with fletcher and hackapel. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31414bbb7.1a274a51.1a4a.1f213e5a65.156575
Must craft arrows ammo.
Bad AoE.
Dex build.

QS3 Wugu3 hackapel. Single target mobile DoT focus. Don’t play with lag/bad ping, and don’t play without mouse mode. Running shot attackspeed depends on your connection. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#313336667.2551.2f75.2f4f5a65
AoE: throw gu pot.
Requires cafrisun set --> manahas set.
Requires weapon grand cross -> didel grand cross.
Str build.

QS3 Rogue3 hackapel. Single target damage from behind. Don’t play with lag/bad ping, and don’t play without mouse mode. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#313339997.2551.2f75.1f295a718a.156575
Bad AoE.
Requires cafrisun set --> manahas set.
Requires weapon grand cross -> didel grand cross.
Str build.

AoE build
Arch2 Ranger3 Reiter2 hacka. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314144aa7.1a274a51.1f4f6575.17214a.5565
AoE: retreat shot.
No bonus from sword gem slots when you use crossbow+pistol skills.
Dex build.

Ranger3 rogue3 hackapel. Feint+barrage combo based, feint&barrage doubles hits of barrage. https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314449997.2551.1f4f6575.1f275a718a.156575
Low AoE.
Str build.

False. Playing with gamepad, have nothing to complain 'bout - just need time to get used to aiming. And moving/kiting with pad is way better.

Requires cafrisun set --> manahas set.

False. In endgame that extra line of AA is useless.

The part about cafrisun and manahas really isn’t much relevant towards endgame (whatever that might be in ToS) since we don’t have many ways to increase elemental damage to significant levels.

Now, regarding the first point though, as far as I know and tested, mouse mode has indeed clear attack speed advantage over other modes. So yeah, you can play gamepad, keyboard, joystick or whatever, but mousemode has the atack speed advantage when auto attacking (afaik).

Don’t know how QS3 build could up dps more without an extra line. No marble grand cross yet. It’s true the low def stats of manahas set endgame will get you killed.

Does gamepad atk cancel beat mouse cancel?

so the conclusion is Full STR >>> Full DEX??
in my case, right now i have STR 232 and DEX 132 ( no gears) should i pump the rest of my points on STR?? my build was ar 2 qs 3 wugu 2 hckpl.

hold your horses, today ktos will anounce about stat revamps plan. be patience

For Wugushi3 QS3 - yes. But only for Wugushi, because poison doesn’t crit, obviously.

Don’t know how QS3 build could up dps more without an extra line.

By boosting Crit damage with 4 slots off-hand sword with high lv yellow gems and good head gears. And transcending your Didel Grand Cross to lv 10 :slight_smile:

my build was ar 2 qs 3 wugu 2 hckpl.

Had the same build, but reset it to A1QS3WGSH3Hckpl during the event. Poison duration kicks ass. And as much as I love Running Shot, AA really falls off in late game :frowning:

But personally I like A2QS3Rg1Cnnr2 build - cannon with running shot is just awesome.

so your main kit now was wugushi’s poison?? not Qs’s running shot anymore?? is a 4 slots sword a sufficient boost to empower running shot?? or is it still useless at end game???

Yup, my main kit became Wugushi’s poison. Running shot damage is not THAT awful, but nothing special compared to skill damage of other characters. Well, it help you to have a constant DPS while running around enemy. With crit build i had smth like 16k damage with critical attacks while running shot. Now it’s smth like stable 10k damage each hit. Endgame normal mobs have around 300k HP :slight_smile:

Any info about the new jincan gu in the build( qs3 wu3) does it crit and is it worth the 5 points now?

Jincan gu does not crit. Insects crawl to the target you are attacking. If you switch targets a lot, the insects keep switching targets and might not hit anything at all.

The explosion is AoE and it hits flying enemies. Explosion hitbox is small so it is difficult to damage enemies. Damage is better after patch but still low. Currently I hit around 3k per insect with 1k physical attack (jincan level 5).

If you hit the enemy they might spawn 1 insect with low%.
If you kill the enemy they will spawn [max] number of insects with a short delay.

Jincan gu poison AoE size is a lot smaller than Gu pot. It will stay for 10 seconds.

Jincan gu poison debuff duration is 60 seconds. It deals 1 hit of damage every 3 seconds (20 hits total if the target is alive for full duration).

Decide if you think this is worth.

Just got my roguec3 hakka today. was pretty happy about that charge skill, because it turn the target back on me. but it has a little delay after you charge the target, and usually the target just turn its face to you when you can actully use backstab. the delay is about 1secish

I have some nasty ping but still can hit once before they turn back.

I think Korean ping can hit twice

i dont think its ping…i think its just how the skill is, you have a delay until you can use other skill.

It has a delay but the char recovers waaaay fast with low ping

If you hold a direction key while casting the skill as soon as you notice your char moving use backstab, it usually works for me.

but somstime it changes ur postion and dont do a full backstab XD

I have the same issue with cavalry charge, though I’m not a rogue so I don’t actually use it for backstab. I mostly use it to interrupt boss attacks.

Well, I don’t see it as an issue, I just think that in their concept it was supposed to be boss CC like the Rodo skill that turns around enemies, but archers heard ‘it turns them around’ and assumed it was supposed to work with backstab.

but only for boss cc its still a very long delay…you have like 1 or 2 sec for just standing there.

hello guys soo with the new swords of hunting ground witch one would be better to use as a one hand sword?
still durandal?
or pajoritas/harverst get durandal spot since they can have 3 slot?

waiting for ur asnwer

thanks already!