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Inquisitor path?

Priest only has one damaging ability that no one uses. That may change when Chaplain gets the buffs but right now it is just not part of the meta.

Full SPR is one of the best builds for priest currently. Not sure what evidence you have to back up it not staying relevant in 330, considering there is no evidence.

full spr gives you about 700 dmg with blessing. full int gives you about 500 extra damage on every attack + 300 with blessing. so if u go ful spr you are litterally relying only on base damage and blesing. at rank 8, you have about 10k average base dmg on every skill, with blessing you barely get any extra dmg. so you have to use 30 skills to kill a monster. (just my math)

with int, bcuz most are multihit, you get +800 on every hit, wich is great

Spirit gives the bonus to aspersion too ya know. Also, the multi hits dont benefit from anything but attribute attack, blessing and sacrement. Not to mention your own argument is contradicting your initial point. You really dont know what you’re talking about do you.

yeah thats a good idea, spend millions of silver on an attribute when you can just get the extra dmg for free

full INT priest? Why would you do that?

You are a full support, you are not trying to max your damage (as you already got at least 4 support ranks as a priest 3)

700 damage is little? Are you considering it is applied to every tick of damage on every member of your party? A single Frost Cloud could do +21k damage PER MOB, that is already more damage than you can as a Priest 3 probably.

Also matk is something very easy to get from gears.

Full SPR Priest is not only strong but is the real way to go for a Priest C3.

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He’s talking about how int affects magic skills on every genuine multi-hit.
And the int/spr difference isn’t large enough with blessing/aspergillum auto attacks as i’ve previously shown. ( link on it. )

Int boosts heal, cure, exorcism, magnus, blessing & aspersion/gillum. Alongside any other int skills like vapors/incineration.

Spr boosts blessing & aspersion/gillum. And enhances the effects of zalciai, monstrance and stone skin most notably.

Even with spr’s superior dmg per hit from blessing for skills int still comes out ahead with ease.


Probably false:

  • We know how high the health is in r8, 250k-300k for specials, few normals with 150k. Due to the ktos vid thread.

  • We know how much dmg spr builds deal to the lack of new spr scaling skills. (Let’s exaggerate a bit and say 10k per auto atk.)

  • We know zalciai got “bug fixed” / nerfed due to gwenyth’s patch notes.

  • We also know the base dmg of other classed due to the ktos vid thread.

And like I said before, there could still be more potential for spr build given we don’t know everything about r8 stat scaling and miko has yet to come out.

It only leads to one conclusion:

Spr builds no longer have sufficient dmg in rank from spr scaling skills alone as far as we know.

They will need to utilise int scaling skills to stay competetive, considering how unlikely it is inquisitor alone solves their issues.
(Exorcise/Magnus and pd2 make a huge difference.)


@moises_andre12

A: Exorcise got buffed, which makes magnus useable for once. Exorcise hits 5-6 enemies 15 times, Magnus hits all enemies in range 30 times. (ideal circumstances ofc, you get the gist.)

B: Int builds also scale blessing damage, just not as much. Depends on how much con you grab ofc but it’s estimated 200-300 less dmg for int per hit.

C: One of the best dmg options at r7-8 is of course plague doctor2, and both vapors/incin hit at least twice a second. Further boosting int’s benefit over spr.

D: Keep in mind int’s magic attack is affected by enhance attributes, where as spr’s bonus to blessing is not. Int will easily do 900 more dmg per hit on skills to a similar spr statted build.

tl/dr:
Do your god damn research first, then post.

I would (only) go full spr support if I would go priest 3 -> kabba2 or oracle1/2/3, since they don’t have any nice INT scaling skills.

Repost spr vs int, lvl 15 blessing, start at +170 due to blessing base and attribute.

Int, with magic skills, at rank 7:
you get +625 magic attack, and +345 blessing damage. Total of +970 damage for yourself.
Party gets +345 blessing per member, total of +1380 (with 4 members).

With spr at rank 7, 501 bless damage for your party, and 501 for you. Loss of 470 damage for yourself vs full int.
Gain of +150 damage for each party member, total of +600 gain for 4 party members vs int. SPR-Total party bonus +2000 (with 4 party members).

Disregarding attribute enhance for int magical bonus, ignoring other spr scaling (status resistance, sp, stone skin):
Int blessing -> you +970, 4-member party +1380 => total +2350
spr blessing -> you +500, 4-member party +2000 => total +2500

For dps:
You are able to dps too, so if you are a dps build (hybrid priest), int will increase overall party damage more (with %enhance attributes).
If you lack dps skills, spr will be better for party dps, so full support => spr.

I have only seen priest3 - X - druids as dps (int), and of course priest 3 into plague doc.


on topic
If I would be a very selfish inquis, I would maximize burst damage through
priest1 (monstrance), diev1 (CD statue), pala3 (conviction), Plague doc (immunity) or monk1 (or cler2), inquis (max god smash, max wheel, 1 malleus, save points for inquis2). I really cannot drop cleric 2 though, too many good points at cler2.

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Almost 280 with my fresh rerolled

c2 priest 1 pally 3 pd 1 inqui 1

What cards do u suggest for the dex build? I’m a bit worried to overload on dexterity, I stopped attributes progression at 75con/150dex to try to understand which cards / how much dex should I have at 330.

Also, right now there are a total of 317 stats point (NOT considering secret quest and chests) and we still have to see how many extra stat point will be added.

Last but no last, onto the shield.

Till they will add the legendary shield with 3 sockets (is on the wiki, have no idea if it will be added at 330 cap or not) I’m thorn between ledas shield (was so lucky to have random drop it :V) ì, pavaisa and ledas. Is the 2 socket option just a no brainer and I should stick with ledas?

Also, while farming the sissels, is there another option, not embarassing, for rings? I’m stuck with abomination set and max pedamion atm :stuck_out_tongue:

Thx for the info :wink:

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I should clarify that any stance I take is pvp-based. I have little knowledge of pve since I don’t care about pve.

In PvP, SPR will always be superior since blessing’s damage can’t be mitigated by any defenses. As long as my damage is over 1, or it is extra-line damage like sacrament and last rites, then all of the extra damage will apply.

Also SPR adds magic defense, albeit minimal.

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Hey guys, I ws wondering which Inquisitor path has better damage over longer fights (say 2~3 min). Would it be a cleric 2- priest 1 - paladin 3 - X- Inquisitor or a Cleric 2 - Priest 1 - Diev 1 - Monk 2 - X - Inquisitor?

Monk seems to have double punch spamming as a good filler + the strike debuffs (double punch for +30%, 10% chance and god finger flick for +50%, non-stacking) for God Smash. Monk also brings a good def break debuff and kamehameha for situational AoE (long CD) and a great DOT on One Inch Punch. Rank 7 could eiter improve monk’s damage skills (especially one inch punch and double punch spam) or could also be used for more added utility, say PD for debuff invul and healing factor.

Paladin has conviction which doubles Smite and God Smash damage, and would increase auto attacks via elemental hits. Paladin also brings restoration for better heals (slight better sp regen) and some degree of elementla magic immunity and free barriers. In between rotations depend on auto-attacks though, unless you make that rank 7 a monk so you also get a lvl 5 double punch for spamming.

Korean charts right now favor the Monk approach, but that might be due to existing builds at the time rank 8 arrived there.

So what do you guys think?

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Get ellaganos card lvl 10 (+10dex). Or wait until rank 8 for blut card (+10CON), new worldboss.

You could get glass mole cards to burst, however they won’t benefit you much before you are inquisitor.

If you really dislike zachariel bangle & bearkaras bangle, you could try to get 2 bracer of archer (increase accuracy, and increase minimum atk) or 2 rapid bangles before sissel/glad.

@yurichalps If you go diev monk, you get lower CD and double punch spam. You have a lower damage god smash at inquisitor without conviction. You may neglect god smash, and focus on birds & wheel, and save points for inquis2 (if you plan to go inquis2). Skilling god smash will increase damage. Skilling birds, and wheel will increase bird count, and wheel duration + damage.

@Wurmheart

I understand you can deal more damage by going with INT instead of SPR.

The thing is you are a mostly support character as a Priest 3, even if you can make your Vapours tick a little harder on a INT build (which won’t that much of a difference if you have good matk gear) you still PROBABLY could make more difference in a party by boosting everyone’s attack through SPR instead of only your own.

Obviously, for any sort of solo playing INT will do you much better and give you better damage, I just think that, for a party-oriented Priest C3, SPR is better.

There’s a lot of decent info regarding amount of dex over at Reilet’s str vs dex topics.

Up to 300 dex should be relatively safe for now. Rest depends on r8/equips you do/don’t want to use.

Card wise reaverpede seems good as well for the +50% dmg vs medium size enemies. Likely not ideal for pvp or bossing focus.

Otherwise go with greyhiem’s advice.


@yurichalps:
Paladin is heavily reliant on the conviction + god smash combo, sadly that has a 30s cd so it won’t be used very often.
With monk1 as their r7 they do quite a bit better though, but at a loss of support. (pala/monk for example.)

Monk2+ lacks paladins burst damage, but has far more dmg in total. (Monk3 example)

And keep in mind monks are ping dependant, unlike paladins.
Paladins shine imo in pvp more due to their spike dmg and magic and magic dmg reductions.

I’d go with monk for pve, pala for pvp. If your ping allows it ofc.

Videos stolen from greyhiem’s thread ofc :smiley:


@Remiri:
It’s clear you have little knowledge period.

And those are some major details you should have mentioned sooner.
Aka only if you solely pvp, and if you solely fight super high magic res enemies.

And it’s equally laughable your grand scheme is to auto attack pvp players to death when dex has just become the primary physical dmg stat.

At least spr’s debuff resist is a better argument as a benefit for pvp. It can at least save you from vapors+incinerate.

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Yeah I’m sitting on elleganos atm, I will re-read the info about dex soft cap, 8x elleganos and monstrance is a LOT of dex and I don’t want to fu*k it up, ty for the insight btw!

I would like to add this vid of inquisi pala monk vs boss (double punch filler after burst):

Pears of anquish triple damage is quite something. Inquisitor 3 will get 16 pears *2. Triple damage homing 32 pears.
Similar to taoist(3) creeping death charm level of crazy.

Wonder if new class ranks can match those.

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Thanks guys, that pretty much answers my doubts. It seems like monk inqui is more of a continuous damage dealer while paladin inqui goes the bursty way. But getting monk 1 on paladin inqui pretty much makes it the best all-around DPS melee cleric in my opinion right now. Rolling an alt like that right now :grin:

The vid shows cler2 krivis1.
You could go cler2 priest1 for monstrance, or cler2 diev1 for cd statue too (and carve attack).

Yeah, going diev 1 instead of that krivis. I think statues are easier to manage without messing the DPS rotation. Priest gotta keep on refreshing monstrance too often. Besides, I’d rather be able to burst 20% sooner than increase my crit chance on those bursts.

It’s clear you have little knowledge period.

■■■■ you. These are the kind of posts that make people ignore you. I will proceed to do the same. Ass.

never said anything about going full int.

i said full spr is bad.

you should have some of each, sooner or later, blessing is gonna fall off even with spr, so you shouldnt rely on it that much