Hello, creator of that spreadsheet here.
I will tell you this.
DEX will never benefit you for damage as a Swordsman even if you have Hoplite 3.
Sure Evasion is nice and all, but there’s no point in getting it unless you can get a lot of it, and I mean upwards 700~1k evasion. Most bosses have roughly 20%~30% accuracy, with the highest one having 50%.
Critical attacks will never benefit you unless you hit past 3.5k total attack (And I mean, your weapon + base attack + skill damage). (My previous spreadsheet said it was 5k)
ALL but two Swordsman skills have less damage than 3k, and those two skills belong to the rank 7 classes with unbelievably long cooldowns.
@daays
DEX will never outdamage STR, period. Also, I’ve never corrected myself; I’ve only further proved my point with each newer spreadsheet along with them getting more accurate.
You need roughly 3.5k total damage for DEX to start being better. You can’t be ~5% near it, you have to be ABOVE it. Swordsman don’t have that kind of burst.
Also the average does not show the range of your damage. The thing is, an “average hit” for a full STR build hardly accounts the burst the every so often crit does while a full DEX build relies on a decent amount of crit attacks to barely come even with a full STR’s non-crit hits.
Cyclone benefits more from STR. Why you ask? Skill damage is like around 1.3k maxed out atm. Adding into what Varuna said, you’ll barely hit 2.5k after defense PER HIT.
But total damage of the skill is way over 3.5k! That doesn’t matter because you need EACH HIT to hit past that number.
So, yes high DEX can work, but it will forever be the sub-optimal build.
it doesn’t even matter if the level cap is 600 or 100. The critical rate formula loses effectiveness the HIGHER level you are, which means you need even more of it to get the same amount.
STR on the other hand will always increase in value due to rank bonus.
Not even T1 modifiers (the % bonus on skills) will change this. And no, skill attribute enhancement doesn’t change this either.
In fact, if you want to account for these, then you have to pass even higher numbers. (I.e a 100% attribute means you need to hit 7k per hit)
You can’t say that’s your damage calculator if someone else made it. Unless you really did make your own then my bad. I highly doubt though.
In the real world, you need to prove what you are saying, or no one will care or bother listening to what you say.
@spamb0x
Any form of DEX from stat points is just bad on Swordsman; don’t do it. Any other source of DEX (aka. bonus stats) are welcomed but not neccessary.
The spreadsheet is a little intimidating I know. Essentially, this is what you wanted to know from it. Swordsman benefit from STR until roughly 3500 total attack (weapon + base stat + skill). There are only two skills that can past that number and they both have extremely high cooldowns.
So, Swordsman benefit from STR more than DEX regardless.
You need about 5k total attack for a full DEX build to be better.
But, with your build, STR is better. Not only for the reasons mentioned above, but Deeds of Valor benefits from higher base attack (which STR increases). Also DoV makes it so that you need to hit even higher than 3.5k for DEX to be better. Another thing is that DoV requires getting hit. A dodge doesn’t count towards that.
@theweirdfool
You do not need to worry about accuracy in pve because your level and a glove near your level will give you all the accuracy you need in pve.
Pvp is a different story but full con is better there anyways because magic can’t miss.
@kylusen92
You actually only need about 20 total DEX (after accounting gear) as a fencer for max evasion. (You need at least 700 evasion. 300 can come from gear easily, your level gives you 280, and your buffs will do the rest)
-You can go high dex, but you really don’t need to.
-Your can get about 300 evasion from gear (which is fairly easy late/end game) + use your evasion skills.
-You can only get a good amount of evasion through your skills.
Yeah you can have a decent evasion with high dex or full dex but you lose so much damage for it. Sure evasion from DEX will help for leveling, but you shouldn’t have that much trouble when you are leveling anyways.
So it’s actually preference if you want to go high DEX for that extra evasion. I personally wouldn’t do it.
