Yes, crosscut and skyliner are good fillers.
But I prefer using doppel skills during the extra time while having PB15 and Gungho15.
I used to be HL3>barb1 before the change but I’m much happier with SW3.
My opinion may change when we get higher defense monsters where we need skull swing.
Kunai is also spammable now making it a good filler, you’ll have enough skills in the end.
too bad skull swing only last for few second… i wish they buff / rebalance it back
Yeah it’s just there to unleash your monster burst like cleave>zwer>skull Swing>zorn>redel x2.
Or double slashes during bunshin
normally i save it for zour > redel .
what do you think the new punish ?
It’s so weak now, I used to 1 shot 300dg monster with 3k PATK. Now I barely scratch them.
I wonder if its still worth a point.
Still does due to how big its radius is.
It’s like cyclone, the better your weapon, the better it is compared to other skills.
Cyclone is supposed to be good, but it just takes too long to deal what you’re supposed to deal. If you can get yourself to deal 100k+ per hit with it, it’s definitely worth.
@redwea
tested centaurus again.
Base AoE atk ratio with 2HS: 5
Wearing: 3 Centaurus
Total AoE Atk ratio+cards: 11
Bunshin Level used: 1
Bunshin Skill used: Sturtz
Sturtzhau bonus aoe atk ratio: 3
Total with Sturtz, centaurus, base: 14
Monsters tested: 5 Black hohen mage (10 aoe def)
Bunshin attacked all 5 Hohens
Removing Centaurus means I only have 8 aoe atk ratio, should only hit 4.
However, I’m not sure if my real shinobi attacked one of the hohens, bunshins kept following fast.
Would be great if someone else tests this too, I have no other way of testing.
Double slash has wider radius and is harder to test
I think mid monster should be 1.5 aoe def. That probably messed up the calculation. Other test prolly mission if you can get both boss closer as 1 boss = 5 adr.
I think I know your ign. I’ll try to reach you tomorrow for testing.
Did they nerf Medium monster aoe def ratio? It used to be 2
Anyway, here’s some screens with 1 centaurus
Centaurus
I equipped 3 centaurus now though.
It is 2 aoe def for medium.
Try it on aoe ratio of 11 with cleave skill maybe on 6 medium mobs on no weap so mobs don’t die.
Also anyone know or have proof video/screenshot if skull swing and/or umbo thrust reduce armor to 0% now or what’s the % reduce now?
Here’s the boss test.
3 Centaurus cards.
Can hit both bosses with basic attack
Total aoe atk ratio is 11 with 3 centaurus
Here’s some screens @Sensate, take a look I guess, too lazy to calculate atm, lol.
Forums are dying again so here’s a third party link:
https://postimg.org/gallery/1a5yuo1f2/
Testing on players it was about 50%~~ reduction in pdef using umbo. Its really noticeable on the new WBs.
That does seem like 50%. Whew, that’s a lot. I wonder about skull swing. It better be more since it has more cooldown and no overheats.
I am also using SW3>Barb2>Doppel3>Shinobi, think is the best build for doppelnobi right now.
I just have one question regarding your build, why 15 DOV rather than 15 Mordschlag, I think DOV doesn’t apply to the clones and lvl 15 mord is a 1212% skill that can be copied (plus +50% dmg if wiz3 lethargy which is a huge boost). I am using
15 Mord
1 Punish
7 Cyclone
6 Zornhau
6 Redel
5 Zwerch
5 Sturtz
Do either of you guys have a full skill build, and a video for your build? Also is str more viable now? Down to my last rank resets want to make sure this will carry me through end game content.
Oh, about that, I’m more focused on overall damage than just bunshins. I tried a build with Lv11 Mordschlag, I didn’t like it. It was strong on bosses but terrible to use on normal monsters.
I do CM mainly and still have Zornhau and Redel as my bread and butter non bunshin skills. A bit more and I could reach 777 777 x 4 on Zornhau with cleave and zwerchhau.
@SeraOver
I’d love to upload a lot of vids but I have terrible upload speed sadly.
Oh no worries just mainly looking for a proper skill build been reading throughout this thread and seeing a bunch of options lol. How’s your build fairing?
Hmm it can handle CM7 pretty well as a main DPS.
I don’t do ET so I can’t talk about it, though I believe CM7 is much harder than miki floors.
What the gears look like:
Do you have a direct skill build I could follow, along with classes leading to rank 9?
Skill build is still a little under experiment so the google doc guide isn’t updated yet, I’ll finalize it by maintenance I suppose. Still up for discussion too.
Currently:
Sword 3:
PB 15
Gungho 15
Bash 3
Double Slash 5
Restrain 7
Barb2:
Cleave10
Warcry 5
Frenzy 5
Helm Chopper 5
Seism 5
Doppel3:
Cyclone 3
Dov 15
Punish 1
Sturtz 5
Zwer 1
Zornhau 10
Redel 10
Shinobi:
5 Kunai
5 Bunshin
4 Katon
1 Mijin
