Farming lv 315 items for orange weapons

[ophiuchu]

Unless you want to compare both periods which will clearly show that the April 24-25 maintenance did change the rates, thus automatically proving my point.

You’re trying to make a point to me and other people about there being changes which kinda requires those values? Not only that but unsure if you even understand what I said in this thread still about them making it easier.

Dpk more difficult than before?

[image] Sounds to me like they just need to adjust the rates and test their crap but as usual this is asking too much of them. You are right they should have just left it at DPK because IMC can't do anything right. Since there were never reports of drop stealing or anything. Sorry everyone the bad rates are my fault how silly of me we should have just told them to lower the drop number value.

Here’s what I pretty much said when I got tagged into the thread which falls in line with the point you’re trying to make to me that I knew already. Now explain to me why would making the drops super easy to obtain would be a problem? Because that’s what I was talking about not minor adjustments within a 5-10% margin and you still have to kill 1000’s of a monster.

Wow just wow. Is it possible for me to be at fault for every single little problem this company has from players like myself not playing or them not being able to fine tune a drop system? Then I’m called a troll because I said if they make it a 100% drop then people are going to get bored when that’s what would happen if I had everything in this game.

It’s called an opinion.

[Seiran]

You’re trying to make a point to me and other people about there being changes which kinda requires those values? Not only that but unsure if you even understand what I said in this thread still about them making it easier.

I understand that the point of the thread is making them easier. You’re the one who doesn’t understand it, since the start:

You said this:

They can’t do it because that will kill the game since there is no more carrot on the stick. If people are max level and have their gear seriously what is there left for you to do?

Which was answered by this:

@ghmgo.ghmgo, I disagree with @ophiuchu. If IMC really wasn’t going to make drops more accessible they wouldn’t be listening to players asking to adjust DPK values.

Another point to support my claim is that they’re adding new Lv.315 gears that are comparable to the weapons you need Practonium and these materials to farm. The Hunting Grounds equipment for sure have lower values but they’re quite decent and serves as alternative.

To show that they’re really listening and working on it.

I already gave you enough things to support my argument that they’re working on it.

Yet, you still didn’t give a single thing to support what you have claimed since the start of this entire discussion.

Everything you did was try to dodge from this question, which I want to ask again:

Why do your points never have anything to support them?

[ophiuchu]

They didn’t add that stuff yet and you still farm 1000’s of a monster to get what you need being a time sink. That’s irrelevant to my opinion of it being boring. You sure got me good there I am sure nobody else has ever had the same opinion and why they ask for it to not be like that.

This seriously is boiling down to you being special trying to make an opinion into an argument using the scientific method. Should we break out the periodic table of elements and collect molecule examples of opinions coming to the conclusion of your own opinion being right?

[Seiran]

They didn’t add that stuff yet and you still farm 1000’s of a monster to get what you need being a time sink.

There goes your dodging + exaggeration again.

My initial point was that they are making it easier and they are listening to users and working on it, yet, trying to get it done right so getting the strongest and rarest type of equipment isn’t trivial, as in any other decent game.

Again: The materials are used to the strongest weapon available.

So instead of giving the strongest weapons for free they’re adjusting the DPK values and as well adding alternative weapons that works just as fine as those for almost, if not all, content.

If what you say was true there would be no point in adding extra Lv.315 gears.

Plus, your post wasn’t an opinion expression one, you posted it as an affirmation that works as a claim but one that’s false, thus false claim. There’s the reason we tell you exaggerate things and makes false claims to make things look worse than they are, just to fail to support your own argument right after and change the topic or use ad-hominem attacks.

[ophiuchu]

Great send me a cake next time IMC does superb things like adjusting a rate by 5-10% and it’s still pretty obscene to most casual people. That’s exactly what they wanted from all their feedback in that thread and this one right? Most people aren’t simply complaining saying 1000’s are too many except for me saying the opposite in a statement which is my opinion.

Do you even live in the reality of these forums and game? Or is your head so far up IMC’s maximus gluteus that you have sit there nitpicking my opinions by writing a formulated equation of why it says something it doesn’t? Because I’m pretty sure I didn’t ask for the DPK or RNG to be easier, but did say if they were 100% drops the game would be boring and people would prolly leave faster.

[Seiran]

Great send me a cake next time IMC does superb things like adjusting a rate by 5-10% and it’s still pretty obscene to most casual people.

More exaggeration.

475-675, I’ll assume (A+B)/2 as average = 575

575 -> 276 = 52% less

Dpk more difficult than before?

31k charogs killed, 112 horn
276 : 1

575 -> 488 = 16% less

Dpk more difficult than before?

9282 kills: Average 488 for 1 sword

Oldshool dpk: 550 - 650 for one drop.

575 -> 356 = 39% less

Dpk more difficult than before?

Having 16020 kills for 45 tails means an average of 356 mobs killed per 1 drop

So, where are the 5-10% you said?

[ophiuchu]

What argument was there before you even existed in this thread when I made a statement based off my own opinion. And what feedback is IMC listening to when people don’t want to kill 1000’s of monsters for a weapon?

I think you need to ask yourself that one.

[Seiran]

What argument was there before you even existed in this thread when I made a statement based off my own opinion.

If your opinion is expressed in the form of a statement written as an argument it’s actually understood as argument and will be treated just like that.

If you want no one to answer to it:
-> First, stop getting emotionally attached to your posts.
-> Second, decide between:
A) State it explicitly as an opinion.
B) Don’t post at all.

And what feedback is IMC listening to when people don’t want to kill 1000’s of monsters for a weapon?

You can read it here, there’s the URL:

Dpk more difficult than before?

We're having internal discussions about making things more clearer with as few miscommunications as possible. Since this is One of the biggest pillars supporting the RPG genre. - and this means there will be a lot of ppl will be interested - and we don't want a too vague answer for it. - as long as it's not 'restricted' So, I've conducted series of feedback between the team with this one. Sorry for keep waiting. right now, I am waiting for a final answer - which I can't speak at this moment what…

[pc.wf]

@ophiuchu Who are you on Orsha?

[pc.wf]

We lived in that area for 2 skull smashers and 2 regard horn pikes. We’re going back for another Skull Smasher. Haha.

[lladocspark]

@ophiuchu and @LunarRabbit
What are your birthdays?

[ophiuchu]

4/20

@ophiuchu Who are you on Orsha?

Ask around and you might find someone who knows.

[pc.wf]

Or uh… couldn’t I just ask you?

[ophiuchu]

Because I would just love to tell everybody my information to be potentially harassed and ruin my currently peaceful grinding. I don’t really do PMs, have any social media ties, or anything like that for good reasons.

Truth be told though I started fresh on Klapedia earlier today to see what it’s like starting out as a new player without tokens ect.

[pc.wf]

I’m not going to harass you. I’m Atramedes on Orsha. Good to meet you.

[ophiuchu]

Are you sure that assumption is correct? Or do I have to also report to you personally each time I do something or else you throw a fit saying I’m an exaggerating liar and flag the Staff?

Sure seems that way. But guess sadly I’ll just always be someone who doesn’t even play or support the game only saying I want people to quit in your mind.

[Seiran]

I’m sure, unless you posted a fake screenshot here for whatever reason you might have:

So how was the new Optimization measure?

[image] [image] [image] [image] [image] [image] Nice multi-threading performance update™ Was a bit excited to get home and only see disappointment. Like I’ve said before the only fix for this game is to actually utilize your GFX card unless you use the glide wrapper method for a quick work around.

[ophiuchu]

Or you know people work and just happen to have money to spend on novice packs because their token expired and they had the TP to change certain things. I mean that could be a possibility just like players who have opinions different to your yours without them being exaggerating liars.

Then if you don’t immediately report all information to LunarRabbit you’re an exaggerating liar that wants players to quit the game in some crazy person’s mind.

[Seiran]

If you want to keep your TeamName secret you can just ask it directly and I’ll remove the post. There’s no need for spamming for people to not see it.

[63scaur]

Says the guy who comes in a thread fueled by emotions to tell me how to post. Thought police much? You are the one looking at my posts emotionally as an argument to respond and then tell me how to post or I need more information because you care too much.

he Digged out your jan 11 post for the screenshot, obsession with you i think?