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Dpk more difficult than before?

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#107

You are just lucky, I have been hunting orange mats like forever (hunting for my guildies), Since the new system fully implemented, I’ve gotten drops rate from as high as 1992 to as low as 24. You can feel the scale down is working but the highest price for it is frustrating.

The average drops rate i’m getting is pretty close to the original system where you have a sure drop between 450 - 650. Sometimes if i’m unlucky, i get series of 700 dpk numbers and the average drop rate is way lower than the original system.

This is really bad, we used to be able to get out of the map for 450 -650 kill, now if you get a really high DPK, you will have to stay longer because you’ll get a lower dpk drop after it that result in a longer farming hours…

#108

They definitely broke something with DPK recently. I will always see a drop around 600-700 kills now, but not before.

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#109

Ahahahah the community is so dumb.
I guess you too were rolling eyes when every time you read “I can’t make my red weapon because of hurdur DPK !!!”

Then you start arguing that time spent for getting x loots with DPK is roughly the same as time spent for getting the same x loots with RNG, the problem being the retardedly low drop rate (because fu imc).
And people argue back that DPK isn’t RNG because people can steal your loots and you can’t get “lucky drops” (forgetting about the whole “unlucky drops” issue) so that’s the reason why you don’t loot anything…

Yeah @ophiuchu @jchsc32 @Lostac (maybe I forget some), I’m looking at you :grin:

#110

Not even sure what you are saying? Are you saying I am dumb because they made it RNG with abysmal chance? Or saying the old DPK system was good?

Sure sounds like you blame me for low rates which is something they control and prolly did not even test as usual.

#111

Nope, I don’t play anymore.
Just enjoying the tears of the community which slowly understand that they whined about the wrong mechanic :smiley:

#112

Sounds to me like they just need to adjust the rates and test their crap but as usual this is asking too much of them. You are right they should have just left it at DPK because IMC can’t do anything right. Since there were never reports of drop stealing or anything. Sorry everyone the bad rates are my fault how silly of me we should have just told them to lower the drop number value.

Farming lv 315 items for orange weapons
#113

I have no idea why this twat is whining here. The HG drop rate was great and we actually liked

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#114

I’m sorry, I couldnt understand anything in that jarbled wall of text, are you 1 of Seifer’s alts or just suffering from downs syndrome?

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#115

I don’t want to say anything but since you tagged me…

yes, you are dumb. that’s all, thank you.

And I never complained about rare drops, it’s a real chance. Not DPK. Have I complained about RO mobile’s retardedly low card drop rate? No. I just either accept that I can’t get any or be happy that I got one luckily.

No hard work stolen from me or stolen from others, fair grounds for everyone.

once again

you are dumb

And I don’t even play anymore, so I don’t know if IMC increased the DPK count or reversed something or whatever. Cheers.

You probably didn’t know, but I’m used to /real/ RNG low drop chances which include games like monster hunter.

#116

So, I’ve been farming kugheri horns for a while (2 hours straight, a little more than 1000 kills)
I made sure channel was empty. I thought mb i was just unlucky, cuz considering a dpk of 1000 on kugheri horns, It should have already dropped in this new system.

Then i realized, while i was taking a break (I was afking on a corner on the map near an npc), some kugheri lyoni disappearing. I thought i was lagging. Then it happened again. Nothing in the map was lagging, everything was at the same speed. They just disappeared. That pretty much killed my will, and i moved on playing things more rewarding, like persona 5.

Just letting u guys know. Mb someone cam confirm this?

#117

Were those Kugheri Lyoni ambush/dropped monsters? If they are they disappear after a while once there’s no target. If you use fade/etc and there’s no one else in the map (I think this is the condition) they will disappear instantly.

It’s a mechanic of these ambush monsters as well they auto-aggro any player that gets near them, even though normal monsters on map won’t aggro.

#118

They have to change it.
We wanted a RNG drop because we wanted to farm items more easy than before.
Now we have to kill a lot of mobs for 1 of 999 items we need.
It’s painful!

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#119

Hello guys,

I’m just give you my personal experience on the DKP system before and after the hunting ground “change”.

I was hunting Dawn Maiden crystal in the HG right after the release of the patch to craft 2 phadas:

I finally succeeded in farming those 90 crystals and i can definitely say that the new system is harder after the last patch.
I obtained them in 974X kills and obtained 5 “free” with 3 silvers and 1 gold maidens.

The DKP value of the crystal was around 100-120 and could farmed 60 of them in 5k1 kill counts before the final release of the DKP system (with the 5 free).
It took me more than 4k6 to obtain only 30 of them (0 free). we can assure that most of the DKP values have been doubled to “compensate” (:rage:) the RNG drops. If we take those values it makes the overall system worse (around 150DKP with lucky drops…)

Once again we got IMC’ed

#120

we got EMC’ed every time they attemt a change and the changelog or patchnote doesnt’ explain EXACTLY the change on value number.

they are always vague like they don’t even know

#121

They changed the values.

I don’t particularly care for spending 3 months farming an item in a repetitive motion. I’ve done so, yes. But I don’t care for it.

They changed it or the people answering the questions aren’t aware and respond to with a script.

#122

I don’t mind too.

I just don’t want the rules to be changed each time. They choose their line of conduct and don’t change it afterwards.

#123

I am in agreement. It’s very unprofessional and would like it to be properly investigated.

@STAFF_Yuri

Staff Yuri, can we file a formal complaints on the issue? I’ve several hours (almost a few days worth) of hunting the same horn to validate a few of my claims. Could we perhaps have this looked into and addressed accordingly?

The system is not working as intended and has changed due to patches.

Please and thank you.

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#124

This topic will prolly close before getting an answer or proper solution.

#125

IMC just hates its players, they even censored the word “hunt”. That means no h**nting mats for you.

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#126

This doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t try. If they really do respond and investigate issues, then I expect Yuri will consult with the powers that be. Even if the answer is a typical, it’s better than not trying.