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Come Earth Tower, is Stone Skin worth the trouble?

Lets be honest, to get stone skin to a usable level, you have to invest quite alot :

  • Priest 3, thereby sacrificing other options such as Diev, dps etc.
  • High spirit build, sacrificing healing power and possible spell dps builds.

In the end, I do wonder if all that is even worth it in the end.

Earth tower is supposed to be high on magic damage.

How does Stone Skin fare against most bosses and generally, how many opportunities are you going to have to actually make that investment into Stone Skin shine ?

Instead, you could run a cleric 2, diev 2-3, krivis/ paladin/druid/Priest, Pd Int build.

@Wurmheart

I think you answer yourself. The question I do have for you is: It is worth for you to make an exclusive class build based on the only end game dungeon we have? What if the next end game dungeon is all about physical damage, are you gonna ask the same thing?

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Well, the other consideration is to split between int and spirit and pick up diev 2 after priest 3. a Solid middle ground if you so will.

I judge by Earth tower, since that is all we can go by right now.
It could easily be another year before we receive additional content all things considered.

It isnt as such about me wanting earth tower loot as rather making an informed decision on how to build a well balanced supporter who doesnt only shine in certain situations.

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Are you referring to my suggested build of priest 3 diev 2 or something else ?

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Brilliant, so I have someone I can actually ask some questions !

I’ try to keep this brief.

Did you feel going this route was worth the effort for a full support build ?
I imagine the combination of having AOE silence and Stone skin available in the same kit as very powerful for the party and highly desirable.

Furthermore, do you found it to be worth sacrificing access to Plague doctor for ?

IN earth tower, would you even be able to bring you chaplain ( if you chose that route) DPS to bear at all or is the danger too high to engage in auto attacks ?

Currently im sitting at level 101 priest 3 and will have to make up my mind on how to move forward.

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Been there, done that, in solo.

im actually on priest c3 and soon to be monk hehe

Please don’t trick people. You have no experience with C1P3 build endgame.

Continuing the discussion from Monk ppl - Cleric c1 // Priest c3 or Cleric c2 // Diev c2?

Continuing the discussion from Proper PvE Monk Guide - No Theory Bollox

Continuing the discussion from Monk - Cleric2/Priest2 or Cleric1/Priest3?

Stone Skin: It gives tremendous amounts of block rate.

Stone Skin is physical immunity with High Spr.
If 0 Spr it’s 400 block rate. Laughable endgame.
So make sure you add Spr stats or use Spr gear in your Monk.
But doesn’t really matter for Earth Tower because it isn’t just physical.

Take note that blessing enhance attribute which when maxed adds +100 attack/damage and requires Priest c3.

Priest1 have +131 damage buff without Divine Might.
Priest2 have +150 damage buff without Divine Might. +21 dmg (lol)
Priest3 have +170 damage buff without Divine Might. +20 dmg (lol)
Endgame even +170 is laughable. Don’t need Priest3 for that.

You get higher level of mass heal which is one of the best heal skills ingame with a pretty very low CD.

You don’t have many to compare, do you?
Anyway, for Heal Burst or Heal Per Second:
Cleric2/Priest2 > Cleric1/Priest3

But having stone skin is not the only advantage of Pc3.

If you comparing Diev to Priest sure.
If you decide to compare C2P2 x C1P3, then no.
Priest3 only gives Stone Skin used for PvP.
PvP is the only reason Cleric1/Priest3 monks exist.
Repeat this as many times as you need to understand your class choice.

If you are a int build, you will surely benefit with Pc3 especially if ur going support or hybrid.

Any build can benefit from Priest, but Int build isn’t going to get more than others.
As Int build your Cleric2 Heals are more than enough for anything and Priests doesn’t have any damage skill that benefits from Int.

id rather let someone do the job, and i be someone who can both protect, heal, support and dish lots of damage.

Priest doesn’t add damage to your build. +170? lol
Diev = Owl + Carve + 20%CDR in all Monk skills.
That’s brutal. Specially not having to worry about Spr.

party members block attacks… no need for heal or revive or safezone etc. thats 35seconds of heaven… + 20sec safezone, + barrier + GB… after that you can cast stone skin again hehe

  • Block doesn’t work in ET magic attack, OP intentions.
    And in any other similar places like bosses fights. Also OP intentions
    Stone Skin is extremely overrated PvE wise by people that have never experienced it.
    Cleric1/Priest3 is worst than C2/D2 or C2P2 for PvE. Not debatable.
  • 20sec safezone? You have 10 hit counts.
    5 monsters x 2 hits = gone
    10 monster x 1 hit = gone
    Party grind and ET have a LOT of monsters.

FYI, at the time the max rank is 7. when 8-10 comes with new classes and new CC skills, PD will surely lose its current value.

PD value isn’t because of current ranks. It has overpowered support ability for both PvP and PvE. That’s why it was nerfed at least in PvP in Korea. It also has high Dps. Excellent for ET or Party play. But with it being most popular choice it falls off in World Boss fights because it gets overwrited by others.

chaplain is more like a advance or upgraded stage of priest 3 which radiate and increase the buff capabilities to a higher level.

Chaplain pick is solo oriented play. It shines to solo content.
Chaplain is not a full support class pick of choice. It’s the idea of being independent when you want. To not rely on party all the time.
For full support you better choose another class.

however you will be a party reliant support. unless you get krivis.

Again, Chaplain can solo any content. That’s the point of getting it.
Now, Cleric cure does a LOT of damage by itself. So you could go Cleric2 for more damage and support.
Also, many other classes help with damage: Druid, PD, Bokor, etc.
Krivis is just 1 of them.

Now for the actual OP post.

How does Stone Skin fare against most bosses and generally, how many opportunities are you going to have to actually make that investment into Stone Skin shine ?

Stone Skin shine in PvP and that’s it.
But it can be game change for it.

Instead, you could run a cleric 2, diev 2-3, krivis/ paladin/druid/Priest, Pd Int build.

Any Int Cleric build is usually better for ET simply because melee range to deal damage is quite deadly. Needs to be extra careful and have proper CC, link, immunity, HP, etc.

Why pick Priest over Diev?

Revive+Resurrection. Those are the reasons why Priest are so important as support. Specially in Earth Tower and PvP.
Being able to bring someone back to life is to play God.

How to play around it?

In PvP you counter it by focusing the Priest asap. Also important to note that Resurrection/Revive doesn’t bring target back with full life, you can just try to kill them again.
In ET death is brutal. Have to walk all the way and can’t use TP item. So you can try using Chrono3 for Backmasking (https://youtu.be/6NGawfWPQDk?t=131) or/and make sure no one dies.

For World Boss, Party grind, DG and Solo play Diev all the way.

Not sure if wenoweon was referring to the small amount of dmg increase or the attribute when he said this so I’ll reiterate just in case. You don’t need Priest 3 for the attribute that provides most of the damage from blessing.

Edit: I’m currently a cleric 2/ priest 2/ monk 2 and I have the attribute maxed

So either 2 diev 2 priest or 3 diev 1 priest really for a high int cleric 2 to PD build.

Any suggestions there ?

Cleric2 Diev3 Priest1 PD is what I recommend.
Diev3 offers you more.
It’s also suggested in both these guides:

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thanks Weno :slight_smile:
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Stone skin? I wanna see you support grind in level 262++ map vs a c2-p2 or c2-d2 almost all the party cry with the 5 tile heals… Also have u tried to duel a cata? If your stone skin max with no spr even with max revive 1 spin to win is all it takes… How about for diev? You can put up a statue and and charge your eb inside… And to put up a statue it only take 1.5 sec… The video in youtube where it takes 2.5-3 sec is old…

Fyi you cant block magic attack

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Going priest 3 does not prohibit you from getting cleric2 and being a much better healer.

Cleric 1 -> Priest3 -> Chap -> Cleric2 is pretty strong, and you can pretty much put whatever you want at the end of it.

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No spr meaning you didnt pump it lol i didnt say zero spr.(omg at i think all the people here should know you have a starting default stats right? And when said no meaning you didnt put any) Like i said partys are already complaining regarding the 5 heal x2 heal tiles. Especially if your the only support. Its still possible to support but it will be slow because they need to catch up to you cd.

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