Your a monk right? You’ll pump spr? Ok… Nuff said… I wana see how your stone skin will handle the 260+++ map. Cause my frends with “again no spr meaning didnt pump it” stone skin are not much noticable.
Back to the topic if you go pure support just go c2-p3-chap-??-pd
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Assume? monk who pump spr? Ok lol… Monk with no spr for stone skin?? Ok lol…
Like i said i wana see how you do it on 260+++. assuming? This is fact once you reach that level you’ll know it. C1-p3 will be a hard time supporting getting another support will lower the party exp/hour. And rank 10?? Yeah when pvp arena is not even out yet.
Nobody stopping you in your build and nobody is saying diev is the only best path. We’re saying this to help people out and what to expect in higher level. See topic it says earth tower
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well thats the thing, theres no such thing as 0 SPR. in fact, items like petamions or other equipment stuff also adds SPR stats, collections etc too.
If you mean you will get 100+ Spr with items instead of damage ability go ahead. That’s least you need lv280 atm and will increase with more levels.
Yes it “isn’t just physical”. thats the magic word “isn’t just”
it means it’s not reliable. It’s not press this button and we’re safe like Barrier or Safety Zone.
it seems like you are the one who doesnt have an idea about priest c3
endgame. when you used multiple hit skills, when you crit, etc. will the damage stays at +170? or will it get multiplied?
I stated Priest1 to Priest3 buff to show that you don’t need Priest 3 for it.
Read again. Priest1 Bless lv3 already can have Lv100 attribute.
Getting Priest3 it’s only 20damage difference for Priest2.
And yes +170 against Diev Dps tools is laughable.
like i mentioned before, my build now is c1P3M3. again, base on my opinion and experience.
Did you just leveled up from C1P3 to C1P3M3 in 5 hours?
“im actually on priest c3 and soon to be monk hehe”
+170 damage blablabla now…compare it with ur owl.
My monk is Priest2(-20dmg) but I’ll bite.
No, Priest is not a Dps pick. Priest can’t compete with Diev in that regard.
Check PDs support and anti-CC. then check the available anti-cc pots that alchemist can craft. come rank 8 with alchemist c3…
Anti-CC is not the reason to go PD. It was already nerfed in Korea because of the uptime. PD Healing Factor and Incineration is as valuable as you may get for 1 rank class. Extremely strong. Specially with Link.
O_o wait what? its a solo class? blablabla Honestly, like i mentioned before, id love to have a Priest c3 + chaplain party mate.
Where did I say Chaplain couldn’t do ET, PvP, GvG, boss hunts etc?
The fact that it’s a solo pick it doesn’t mean you can’t perform well anywhere else.
It means you could have picked something better for party play.
Like Cleric2, Diev2, etc
The Chaplain pick itself does very little for the party comparing with others.
Cleric Cure does a lot of damage by itself? ?_? wut? maybe in low levels? but in ET? also cure needs tons of INT to deal damage. again please watch the video for krivis.
Let’s do the math shaw we?
Zaibas lv15:
19hits 30s CD 2 charges
19 x 2 / 30 = 1.27 hits/second
Cure lv15:
38hits 20s CD
38 / 20 = 1.9 hits/second
Flat base damage difference:
Krivis(356) - Cure(31) = 325 damage.
Cure is one of the best scaling skill Cleric has.
Just like Druid Carnivory with 40 hit counts and Krivis Zaibas with 38.
You tell me how weak you think it’s now.
its like u are fixated to your belief that stone skin is useless in PvE. how can something that nulls damage and CCs in both PvP and PvP become useless in PvE?
I think it’s OP in PvP in a Spr build. But that’s it. Anywhere else I rather have much more damage with more Str, Divine Might and better defence against everything with a decent Safety Zone.
So yeah, PvE wise it’s a terrible choice.
revive is actually blabla with correct management, a priest/support etc can use this as a advantage.
I know well how Revive/Res works but it’s good to put information out there so kudos to you. First thing I agreed with you.
Wrong. There is a invulnerable time after revival. also if a priest is
good enough, he can cast revive skill after resurrection which will
protect the newly resurrected player for the duration.
I was only analyzing resurrection there but lets talk about it then.
In PvP scenario I would be impressed if a Priest don’t start with Revive on.
Not my experience so far but it’s smart that you do that way if you manage to cast Res without risking yourself dying without Revive.
Still Revive is not crucial for anything in this game. Resurrection is.
Not when you have a priest c3 with revive lv10 and at least resu lv2.
That was my whole point wasn’t it? Needing at least Priest1 for res.
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Here we go again…
again stop assuming and blaming me for your assumptions. no where in this forum did i posted that i will get 100+ SPR. Also SPR does a lot of benefits other than adding stone skin block rate.
It’s not assumption. It’s a fact that I’m telling you. You need 100+.
Yes, Spr have other functions but I would never go Spr in Monk unless for PvP. With or without Stone Skin.
wait… does diev have barrier skill? unless ofc if a diev use a
barrier scroll which a priest c3 or monk can also use even without
paladin class right? again… omfg…
They have Safety Zone which you don’t. Cleric1 SZ is joke to say the least. They have silence statue with also soft taunt. Both surpass Stone Skin use by a large margin.
Lv100? omfg… over assumption again… did u just sht on your face and
proved to everyone that you are the one who have no fcking idea about
blessing skill?
Max lv 100dmg, did you see my math in the first post? You’re obviously just tolling now. That’s desperate dude.
again… 20 added damage gets multiplied… i honestly dont want to repost my long damage multiplicative above…please just scroll up. oh and btw… i only get lv10 blessing hehe
Sure now calculate Divine Might +1lv in Damage skills.
oh, so you are comparing blessing skills VS all diev skills huh? ahh i see i see… you are now both over assuming and over comparing. why would you compare 1 skill VS 1 class? ?_?
I’m comparing all Cleric1Priest3 skills against Cleric2Priest2 and Cleric2Diev2.
That’s the whole point obviously.
Oh, your assuming again that in 5 hours i reached C1P3M3? Please stop assuming.
I can only work with what I know with what you said. It was not assumption. It’s the fact I had before you add more information.
Exactly! and i did not say that if OP goes Priest C3 he/she cannot go Diev. Also Stone skin cannot be scrolled. now ur trying to move away from the discussion.
Never said it could. It’s exactly what stands out for Priest3.
infinite hit counts? where did i put infinite hit counts? the hit counts i put there is actually 10. and also base on hit counts of skill, i did not say “Infinite”… wtf?
Because there is no Monk skill that can hit 10 counts 10splash constantly. It’s not tangible.
Exactly! 1 Skill VS 3 skills. yes thats how you do it!
That’s exactly how it is. What do you want me to do or say?
Priest doesn’t have damage skills. Diev does. Also gets +1 Divine and 20%CDR.
Deal with it.
wait… who said priest is a dps pick? ?_?
You. You keep saying how blessing is strong and can hold up against C2D2 or C2P2. Lmao
Even Cleric2Priest2 have better damage with Divine Might and more Str.
C1P3 is the weakest. Live with it.
and assuming you have a linker huh? and assuming the OP is asking for DPS build huh? … oh well.
I said specially not necessary. And yes, OP asked about how much he is giving up for Stone Skin. That includes DPS. And a lot of it.
wait… did i say you said chaplain couldnt do ET etc? i didnt say that right? then why the fck are you putting that on me? or its you who fcking assumes again? omfg guys… facepalm
I don’t assume, you specificly told everyone here to watch a video Chaplain doing ET to prove it works. So you assumed I said it doesn’t.
Blessing +170 damage X 150 hits = 25,500 excluding crits.
oh btw, that 25,500 is on top of your normal attack…
do i have to do the math? ?_?
Wtf you talking about now?
I showed you how strong Cure is compared to Zaibas because you said it was trash.
What bless have to do with it!?
why would someone do SPR build? or Full SPR build? you assume that OP will do SPR build and do PvP? so that you can prove that Stone skin is useless because it needs SPR? the fck that logic is rotten!
Not assuming anything. I said it works with Spr and that’s it.
I would never recommend OP to go for it.
Chaplain build is either Spr/Con or Int/Spr/Con.
Weren’t you the one telling us how good it was and how it works? And you don’t know this?
Every player have different gameplay. Not everyone think the way you do. I hope not.
Second time I agreed. Thank god everyone is different.
What? 50% HP recove + 10 sec immortality is not crucial? blablabla but “i” rather be priest c3.
Revive is strong but so are Diev tools.
Priest2 have Revive lv6 so no problems there either.
No, not crucial for PvP or PvE.
“Thanks” for wasting my time correcting everything you said.
Please don’t come back.
They have Safety Zone which you don’t. Cleric1 SZ is joke to say the least.
Most competent Chaplains have Cleric 2.
Standard build is C1 > P3 > Chaplain > C2 > PD
@lancewang1986 You should know I was comparing to PrinceMark’s Cleric1Priest3Monk3 and only going up 4ranks.
Only reason I spoke of Chaplain was to correct PrinceMark in his statement:
“If you want to be a party support, you can be P3, Chaplain, Diev etc.
however you will be a party reliant support. unless you get krivis.”
Not the 1st time I heard someone saying that Owl is a better Safe Zone, could someone explain to me why?
i dont like diev cause you keep on leaving the statue behind haha
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@PrinceMark after reading your discussion I think I’m going P3 rather than div. If i may ask can you please suggest what level of sacrament and blessing should i get?
Thanx!
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Have you tried duel? Vs mage, archer, cata3, monk diev? If your a priest they just chase you and kill you u dont have anything to do either you go charge in and die. Your 10 blocks sz wont save you even those 5x2 heal tile wont help… u cant even charge your eb since one poke will end the charging… In diev its called area of control its suicide if they go into your statues aoe (lamia, world tree) if they dont go in you can freely cast your eb. Now how about in gvg or group pvp? Those melee are sitting ducks they cant get close while ur range members can hit them. If there range hit those in statue they can just back down you cant chase them while the statue is up ull die. You can 100% uptime lamia and also it reduces all your members skill 20% while slowing then adding cd to those enemy inside. You can also heal statue if they focus on it
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again. not everyone thinks the same way as you do.
That number is not up for debate. It’s a fact. Have less and see your Stone Skin being useless.
and who the fck told you to do so?
If you’re suggesting someone going for Priest3 then you’re telling them to do so.
but again, every cleric starts at cleric C1 which ofc have safezone. why
do you even argue about safezone when every cleric has it?
And again Cleric1 SZ is sht.
DID YOU SEE YOUR POST? here… blablabla i think you need to visit a PSYCHO THE RAPIST… i mean PsycoTheRapist.
Because I misspelled/resumed/ didn’t express myself well after I detailed the whole calculation and number behind it you dare to accuse me of not knowing about the skill? That is in fact desperate attempt to troll. Why don’t you try to fix my calculation on the previous post about it? Please, look for help.
what does DM have to do with this? ?_?
Because you were arguing +20 damage of Priest3 was better, so I told you to calculate Divine Might Cleric2 has.
Why? are you that desperate to bring down Priest C3? you are comparing builds base on rank 4? dude its rank 7 already and rank 8 is near coming! why are you confining yourself on 4 ranks? just to prove Priest C3 is useless? or stone skin is useless? or Diev is better than Pc3? well, fyi, rank 7 is open now! you can get Priest c3 and Diev c3 if you want! duh!
your whole point is base on 4 ranks. which is pointless coz currently is already rank 7. Obviously.
Not at all. I think C1P3 has it’s place like I said in PvP. Just don’t try to bring it to PvE with false pretences. If OP asks about ET, answer accordantly. You should have not even mention Monk for it.
The only reason I stuck with 4ranks is to help with your argument about Monk build.
I could easily add more ranks to it but would only get worst for you. Btw, I already gave full build for OP with 2 other guides backing it up.
Oh really? blablabla You have NO IDEA how monk works. yet you pretend to be a smart ass about monk. good job!
Actually you just proved yourself wrong once again.
Energy blast has high CD and you beg to have 20%CDR for it.
If your double punch has 10 splash damage report it, it’s bugged. It should hit less than 1/3 of that. So no, you can’t spam 10 counts 10 splash constantly. Get your math straight.
What the fck? No damage skills? what do you call sacrament and
blessing damage buff? or you mean “ACTIVE DAMAGE ORIENTED SKILL”??? and you honestly admit that you actually compare 1 priest skill VS 3 diev skills
What is there more to compare? Sacrament is what +40 damage? You realise how naive you sound? Both Sac and Bless aren’t just worthless because you can buy buffs but because they also fall off really hard endgame. They don’t scale at all. The higher level worst it gets.
And yes again, ofc I’ll consider all Diev skills. Why wouldn’t I?
where did i post that? i never posted about C2D2 or C2P2! what the fck dude ur seeing things! change of plans… ur not going to the sychoTheRapist! you need to go to waste management!
Do you see how low you going with your arguments insulting me instead of giving a clear message and addressing the problems I list?
You didn’t post C2D2 or C2P2, I did and you replied about it. That’s how it works. Read more talk less.
again… current max rank is 7! SEVEN! why the fck are you confining urself on rank 4???
It doesn’t matter. Just as you can get a rank to complement damage you lack I could get another rank doing the same or better. It doesn’t justify how weak your first 4 ranks are.
what? dude i posted that video to show everyone that P3>Chaplain works. Period. and it WORKS.
I dont give a fck if ur butthurt about me proving u wrong but whatever.
Awesome we agree again, it works. But it’s not ideal for ET.
Again, Chaplain pick is to give option for easy solo time.
Don’t fool yourself to think you’re picking Chaplain thinking about party play.
You could get much better build instead without it.
Let’s take the build someone posted with other options:
C2 / P3 / PD / Chap
C2 / P1 / PD / Di3
C2 / P1 / PD / Di2 / Dr1
C2 / P1 / PD / K3
Priest2+3+Chap utility and damage is bullsh*t compared to others in PvE (ET, WB, etc).
Even Krivis3 performs better with all the damage/buffs/debuffs it brings.
Also don’t say Chaplain or Diev can’t solo. It’s embarrassing.
Go take a look what other guides/people suggests for PvE before coming with your PvP Monk.
Thank you! you just proved revive strong after you posted
I said that in first post didn’t I?
Let’s recap: “Why pick Priest over Diev? Revive+Resurrection.”
But no, it’s not necessary for ET. Res is.
I dont get you man…
I’m sorry, try reading again
REVIVE LEVEL 6 at PRIEST CIRCLE 2? are you going to DENY this again?
You forget Cleric2 have Divine Might.
Same way we can have lv11 Heal, lv6 Res, lv6 Mass Heal, lv11 bless, lv6 sac, energy bean, one inch, etc
Just got to choose where you want to invest the extra level.
5 charges in 27s CD without CDR.
Lelz thats the main issue with dievs buffs. also in pvp enemies who are familiar with dev owl DPS will just avoid it or do a range aoe attack. a party relying on a diev buff will surely compact themselves on the owl range making them a sitting duck target.
Have you tried to PvP against Diev? You should. Range is deceiving, the zoning is absurd, you got Safety to help set up. Not to say you’re not playing alone. Anyway, try to get through silence statue, slow statue and damage statue then you tell us your “experience”.
You again started talking about PvP. Go to another thread. Make a new one. This is ET, PvE focus.
oh, sorry then… omfg… -_______-"
Yet you did it again. What a fool. I’m done with you.
The information is there for who needs it.
Got no intention of trying to help you any longer.
If you don’t get it by now it’s a lost cause.
Edit:
In first post I linked 3 people talking about Stone Skin and Priest3.
Here is another one. HF!
Its not an assumption its a fact. When i say priest its a priest monk do i have to compelete everything for you to understand? Clearly you dont duel a lot to know your class weakness. One spin to win is all it takes to kill a priest monk and this is not assumption its a fact unless you have a high con ur pretty much dead. Yeah a party of priest monk archers and wiz
Vs statues archers and wiz think who will push thru… And please try to use 1st a diev to know exactly what im saying you should gvg a lot vs 240++ char… And yah popular? No wonder people are crying in those 5x2 heal tiles again this is a fact ask around those who level in storage level 262 map and above not saying its impossible to level but still 
And please for the love of God stop saying assumption is that your favorite word? Stop trolling or starting a flame. We’re here to guide people not start a war. Zzzz
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