So if someone treat you like ■■■■ because you are ■■■■ then he is a bad person? WOW, SUCH LOGIC, no wonder you made so many bad build 
I always like to discuss, provide calc, data, and willing to accept my mistake if the other ppl do the same, but you are the most idiot ppl here, why should i treat you like a normal person?
Quit the game already worthless n00b, you cannot argue with Wurmheart who knows the game more than IMC themselves. hue
Yes, that’s true. But do you know for example how many “bonus stats” you loose if 75 on points invested to other stat:
You missed the point entirely. I called it snowballing for a reason, it gets more effective at higher levels.
You also failed to take into account that higher dex investments reap more benefits from monstrance unlike the hybrid options.
Let’s take a ideal case endgame example: Rank 10, level 500:
200 into spr = 261 spr = 261 block pen and situational -209 crit res.
300 into dex = 389 dex = x1.3 + 10 = 516 crit rate.
Total = 209 + 516 = 725 crit rate.
500 into dex = 691 dex = x1.3 +10 = 908 crit rate.
That’s an 183 difference. You see where I’m getting at? That difference will grow a lot in the later ranks.
Likewise for r8 full dex builds do not benefit from both monstrance & zalciai. They simply hit the crit cap to fast in PvE.
And it’s not like you can debuff everything all the time with zalcial:
Mind you it has a decent duration but it’s highly impractical for most of pve and pvp. Fine vs bosses ofc.
The crit attack amount is also insanely low for r8. We’ll be dealing with 250-500k health mobs in r8 already. +300 crit attack is not important enough to shape builds at that point. Esp since crit builds tend to rely on spike dmg.
Perhaps zalciai can find a niche in r9 or r10 when the crit cap becomes harder to reach due to the level scaling on crit chance.
But for now it’s too inefficient, unreliable and comes at a cost of better support/utility.
Ok )
Equips:
Full STR stats (total with Equips)
STR: 819 (330 invested) + 14 (Max Penthamon) + 25 (Lolo 4 Set) = 858
P.Atk: 1149 + 14 (Max Penthamon) + 25 (Lolo 4 Set) + 21 (Lolo gloves) + 483 (Avarage damage of Lolo Mace +10) + 21x2 (2xSissel) = 1734
Critical Attack: 819 + 14 (Max Penthamon) + 25 (Lolo 4 Set) = 858
Critical Chance %: ([3+372(2xSissel)+582(2xGreen Gems Weapon)+75(Green Gem)] - 100) x (42/330) = (268-100)x0.127 = 21% (Rounded down)
Full DEX stats (total with Equips)
DEX: 479 (330 invested)
P.Atk: 340+14 (Max Penthamon)+25 (Lolo 4 Set)+21(Lolo gloves)+483 (Avarage damage of Lolo Mace +10)+21x2 (2xSissel) = 925
Crit Attack: 10+14(Max Penthamon)+25 (Lolo 4 Set) = 49
Critical Chance %: ([479+74+116+75] - 100)x0.127 = 644x0.127 = 82% (rounded up)
Hybrid STR/DEX/SPR stats
STR: 452 (206 invested)+14+25= 491
SPR: 100 (75 invested)
DEX: 100 (79 invested)
P.Atk: 491 + 14 (Max Penthamon) + 25 (Lolo 4 Set) + 21 (Lolo gloves) + 483 (Avarage damage of Lolo Mace +10) + 21x2 (2xSissel) = 1076
Critical Attack: 491+14+25 = 530
Critical Chance: ([100+74+116+75] - 100)x0.127 = 265x0.127 = 34% (Rounded up)
[Zalciai] level 3 Impact with attributes
Critical Attack: 530+225 = 755
Critical % Chance: ([100+74+116+75] - [100 - {9+0.8x100}])x0.127 = (365-11)x0.127 = 45% Critical chance
[Smite] level 15
Static Damage Value: 1771
Overheat: 3
CD: 9
[Conviction] level 5
Static Damage Value: 1072
Overheat: 2
CD: 26
[God Smash] level 5
Static Damage Value: 7906
Overheat: 3
CD: 30
[Pear of Anguish] level 5
Static Damage Value: 5320
Overheat: 2
CD: 24
[Breaking Wheel] level 5
Static Damage Value: 2336
Overheat: 1
Duration: 10
CD: 50
Effect: Deals tick of damage every 0.5 sec
So we have DPS table for Paladin’s and Iquisitor’s skills:
| STR | DEX | Hybrid |
| 1407 | 1334 | 1329 | [Smite]
| 258 | 224 | 233 | [Conviction]
| 1128 | 1301 | 1181 | [God Smash]
| 3692 | 4095 | 3785 | [Pear of Anguish]
| 2339 | 2319 | 2563 | [Breaking Wheel]
So average DPS for all skills per build:
([DPS 1] + [DPS 2] + …) / [N], where N - number of skills
STR: (1407+258+1128+3692+2339) / 5 = 1765 DPS
DEX: (1334+224+1301+4095+2319) / 5 = 1855 DPS
Hybrid: (1329+233+1181+3785+2563) / 5 = 1818 DPS
So after all it’s not that noticeable loss in DPS if you compare all builds:
DEX: First
Hybrid: Second, with 2% less average DPS
STR: Third, with 5% less average DPS
What i was trying to point out:
Unreasonable, pick a normal plate instead.
Nope, pick min-maxie instead. It’s got a easy 600 base physical base and drops of one of the new dungeons. Should be a lot easier to get to boot.
And I refuse to call it by its boring name now, much prefer this one. It’s self-evident why anyway.
Can be a good fit on str or hybrid builds, but is not ideal for full dex.
Phada/Gladiator or con bracelets
Someone, conveniently, forgot monstrance again.
FEEL THE MONSTRANCE, ACCEPT IT, CALCULATE WITH IT. THE CAPS SAID SO!
Yeah and god smash gets x2 multiplier when using a blunt and another x2 multiplier when hitting enemies under conviction.
Conviction even spreads via breaking wheel, for a quite nice combo.
And while we’re on this subject, god smash level dmg is:
level 6 is 8734, lvl 7 is 9563, lvl 8 is 10391.
Divine Might (cleric2) & Broom (Miko) make a world of difference right here. So does a skill gem. Esp since it’s affected by that x4 multiplier.
See: Rank 8 Gameplay Videos from Korea - (closing soon) for video showcases of said combo woo.
It’s pretty much the bread and butter of a pala-inquisitor. Wheel > conviction > 3x god smash.
I’m not going to bother with the rest just yet.
Most because mainly you assume to spam skills 24/7 which is besides the point.
You simply need to prove the dex vs str drop of point provided in the links above is inaccurate. That’s a lot less work to boot.
And don’t forget transcendency either next time.
But on the bright side, you put more reasoning into it than most do on these tos fansites.
Alas, that doesn’t make it any less wrong.
Who gave you right to call someone “■■■■” ? I didn’t. You don’t know me.
Nope, Catacombs Club +303 M.Atk
[Heal] level 5:
((5(Square Amount)x{67+436(INT)+935(M.Atk)})x2(Overheat))x2(Blessing Bonus) = 28760 Damage
[Zaibas] level 10:
[(261+4(INT)+505(M.Atk))x14]x2(Overhit) = 21560 Damage (No INT).
[(261+436(INT)+935)x14]x2(Overhit) = 45696 Damage (436 INT, value for level 196)
So, no it doesn’t. Make sure you got some background of the skill.
Wow, such logic, Level 5 heal vs level 10 zaibas
Well according to your own calculation, on the same level heal will win
Heal lvl 10 will be 56K
Your Zaibas 45K
So LOL at your own stupidity
who the hell have heal lvl 5 anyway? Lol (except some offensive chaplain who also have mass heal lvl 10 to help healing)
Is there any proof of this ? Coz i haven’t seen any actual values provided to the [God Smash] skill. I don’t expect it to be +100% damage when using [Blunt], coz many damage type modifiers got +50%, Hoplite [Spear Lunge] +50% to [Pierce], Barbarian [Cleave] +50% to [Slash], Murmillo [Headbutt] +50% to [Strike].
If it has +100% that would be nice. Anyway i din’t count [Smite]+50% knokdown bonus and x2 to [Devil],[Mutant] type damage.
Irrelevant in current formula coz it is applied to all DPS values, just multiply by 2.
It has +25 STR bonus, so it does affects overall calculations. But that actually doesn’t matter.
I don’t bother myself with new Rank 8, weapons, but i saw them. Got really sweet stats on weapons thou. Excited on a Mace with M.Atk as a scaleble value.
What is a skill description on this, coz i din’t get the effect.
Didn’t get that, i am not native English speaker, could you explain that ?
Didn’t get this one too.
How often you see Priest with [Monstrace], coz most of them max other buffs to sell them. At least it is on Fediman.
So here is re-calculation on Crit Chance with [Monstrace] and [Smite]:
Full DEX stats
DEX: 622
Critical Chance %: ([622+74+116+75]-100)x0.127=787x0.127 = 100% (Rounded UP).
Hybrid:
DEX: 130
Critical Chance %: ([130+74+116+75]-11)x0.127=384x0.127 = 49% (Rounded UP).
[Smite] level 15
DPS Difference 62, that is equal 4.5% more DPS. So 100% Crit vs 50% Crit.
Problem of Wheel that you can go out of the damage range. But it works great with Catagoon [Rush] + [Restrain] and [Dethron] lock effect.
Wheel simply doubles [Rush]+[Restrain] lock and damage. So what is expected: Goon use Rush and locks team and Inquisitor lands wheel = Profit, instakill.
Well, video you provided got Heal 5.
Heal 10:
{[(107+4+505)x10]x2}x2 = 24640 (No INT)
{[(107+436+935)x10]x2}x2 = 59120 (436 INT, Full INT value for level 196)
Zaibas 10:
[(261+4(INT)+505(M.Atk))x14]x2(Overhit) = 21560 Damage (No INT).
[(261+436(INT)+935)x14]x2(Overhit) = 45696 Damage (436 INT, Full INT value for level 196)
So yeah, it does
Where is my stupidity ?
Meh, i did actual calculation for funbase that includes all variables, DEF of target, Damage type vs Armor type, animation time of skills actual movement and most effective skill rotation for the build. So yeah that all gone and will not be ever show or calculated. Even % impact to damage of different Classes, same as DPS table calculation for all Classes / Skills. Quite fun time of my life. This will not be ever shared.
But, Cleric C2 > Krivis C1 > Paladin C3 > Miko C1 > Inqusitor C3 looks fun, but probably will newer be leveled up.
Cheers.
Check the url I listed below the god smash & lvl bonus part. It has all the r8 videos. Check any pala inquisitor video really.
Best case I’ve seen was a 75k crit with god smash so far.
x4, and it matters for the dps comparison a lot.
Poor man’s translation of Broom.
But basically it places circles that give +1 to the skills used within it’s range.
Point out where the dex vs str calculations are wrong in this page: A New and Better STR vs DEX answer machine
Read: Brief Technical Guide to Transcendence
huge bump to basic phys atk basically. Max is +550% attack from your weapon.
The whole point of going dex as a cleric is to grab priest for res & monstrance.
Monstrance is one of the easiest crit rate boosts in this game. And it can’t be sold by pardoners.
It’s a 1 point wonder.
I was talking about the dmg rotation for pve, not pvp.
I mean Breaking Wheel > Conviction > x3 God smash already deals around 300k dmg. Full dex is far better at maxing your full dmg burst.
[Conviction] makes [Smite] deal 3 Hits, don’t know about [God Smash].[quote=“Wurmheart, post:54, topic:323123”]
Poor man’s translation of Broom.
But basically it places circles that give +1 to the skills used within it’s range.
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Lol i can do this translation by myself )
And it seams like it works like [Counter Spell], clearing blocks on the land and it fits Broom action ) Increasing level increases range of cleared, it start from [Skill Level]+1 range.
Well quite obvious (not sure about exactly 300k), for damage side, but where it is better ? It’s better for less then 10% according to hybrid build, also you increase your party damage output. (Only Physical side of party)
Oh new weapon upgrade, yes i saw that on IMC patch-notes.
It’s not actually DEX vs STR, coz i use Third stat. But i will read that.
I used that big formula to calculate most of the damage.
Except it doesn’t take to account movement frames and skill animation time.
Same for TOS Mechanics document, got it forked in my git-repo.
More that that got effective graphics on the profit/effort dependancy for the Enchantment level of the equip and Gem hunting.
u simply turn this discussion thread into drama theater and then math class…
@Wurmheart @bintang_wowo u already see how ignorant he is, better just sit down than argue with him…
bet he won’t need a lawyer even at the court…
Guys i just don’t get it in the end. I’m returning player so all these math is nothing for me D: So can anyone just link me meta build for pala3-inq dex build? And how i should stat during leveling. Please?..