so basically the class got nerfed because someone has enough damage to to crit 100k (less hits to kill = less mana spent = not a class for people that are not going to spend a fortune in one pistol and hope to get a +16up over and trans 10), and to kill random noobs in the arena. 
such skill, amazing. 
Then perhaps, just perhaps it is now time to invest more on your SR so you won’t have SP issues? Some classes require more gear investment to be better, and you can get to that point by your own pace.
I heard that having some SPR always help.
You don’t even need to invest in any SPR. As long as you use glass mole cards, there’s no reason for anyone to complain about SP issues, since you’re trying to maximize your damage by using SP pots.
Good, so there’s that.
THE CLASSIC RandyBK +29 or whatever pistol with lv9 gems and lv100 attributes (now that I recognize that ID, ur the same guy with all that RMT real/fake photos shit aren’t you?)
You use this to evaluate a class? Really? Sure, the rest of us who don’t casually do 110k retreat shot must be playing the class wrong.
LMAO
You’re the second person to say I have a +29 pistol when I don’t, are you okay?
Sure, I can use it to evaluate a class because people say that the class is useless when they don’t put time or effort into making the build good. I had to work my ass off to make an aspana a year and a half ago on my linker warlock when mobs had defense and 500k HP. It took me 3 aspanas to get my upgrade to +20 and above, that was a goal of mine. I’m not “casually” doing those 110k retreat shots out of nowhere, just play the damn MMO and work on it. Also, the guy mentioned about SP issues and I said he’s playing the class wrong if he’s running out of SP.
You can go ahead and ask the staff and the people that matter on the server to tell you that I don’t RMT. It doesn’t make sense to me if someone farms over 3, 4, 5+ hours a day and then goes ahead and RMT.
Making multiple steam accounts for easy diamond anvils is also a sign of a hard working player.
If I actually had money, I’d probably do that. But guessing event and pokemon event made it easier for multiple people to get over +16.
In a way, you have to evalute a class with the most powerful gear in order to know if it’s broken or not. As long as players can reach the most powerful build/gears, even if it’s only one player, it has to be nerfed. You certainly think it’s wrong because we’re talking about a game full of RNG when it’s about upgradring gears.
Well, they also need to consider the mechanic.
No matter what class… having a skill that hits things offscreen/entire screen makes it worth a review if needs balancing/adapting the skill or not.
Same goes for broken mechanics, like, uh, old Melstis in general (not only because Retreat Shot or Immunity). While definitely seems like “they’re nerfing the class”, there’s no sense in having some broken mechanics in the game and many people are very glad these broken things disappears slowly.
The game itself stops being fun if all you need to do is cheese your way through it.
Uh NO? TF is this logic? You nerf a class because 1% of RMT(or not, who knows?)whales can kill things fast in low level content/dominate TBL in which the same 5% of the whales rotate their characters?
With the same amount of whale gears a QS3BM2 variant completely outclasses a SR3. A SR3 only excels in area where mobs have 0/very little defense like 300 dunegon (lmao) and some CM here and there. SR3 lacks single target damage no matter how you build it and the current end-game content does not fit SR3 whatsoever.
Marching Fire having that kind of AOE sort of compensates SR’s weakness and making SR a “low level farming character”, and if anything they can just nerf the skill for PVP, what’s wrong with SR hitting mobs off screen?
Well guess why would some random strangers on the forum say this? Because I constantly see you ping your weapons in shout like it’s your ■■■■ size, I don’t even know you but as soon as I see that ID I remember.
Mind you, I did say “or whatever”. If it’s not +29 it should be close.
A build that’s good in clearing low level content and large AOE is exactly what achieves it. Anything other than that SR is subpar. Put in the same kind of gears on a QS3/BM2 or Falconer3/BM1 variant and you will clear velcoffer 5 minutes faster.
He’s not playing the class wrong. SR3 do drain their SP pretty quickly.
You don’t feel like it BECAUSE YOU KILL THINGS IN 1 HIT AND IT TAKES AN AVERAGE PLAYER 5-6. Every hit from the SR takes SP, if you turn on the spread attribute you drain your SP even faster. If you drink pot non stop, yes you can maintain your SP bar but in places that drain SP like Velcoffer, you need double pot or even elixir. It can be tickled with (and not everyone choose to use Glassmole btw), but it still doesn’t make sense when a BM can shoot for free and a SR takes SP pot to shoot (maybe only drains SP when the attribute is on?)
I have no problem with you doing 11k retreat shot. I responded to you because you think SR has no issues when you literally kill things so fast because of your weapon and your gears, not your build. If I show you a clip of an chorno/omniji variant clearing 300 dunegons faster than you do would you say omniji is OP and it needs AOE nerf on it’s tiger skill? This makes literally no sense.
Inexistant class? that’s one of the most popular archer classes beside BM and FC
And awww booo hooo they ruined ur op range skill? :C how saaaaad
Also tired of having to deal with SR at TBL
Yep, when other people have fun pinging their items you’ll turn a blind eye but when I do it, you get slightly disgruntled. Okayyyyyyy.
So how come my SP was always full on bosses like Marnox/Mirtis/Zaura etc? If you’re losing too much SP, you’re not doing your rotations correctly. You can’t really make that claim, since I can’t 1 shot 400m HP bosses back then let alone 3.8B. Bosses such as Rexipher is espected to lose SP.
Until I see that build beat my Bernice ranking, I’ll call my build better, how about that? 
I really don’t care what the other builds, do. If they do a better job than mine, then that’s cool. Arcelle cleared the 270 dungeon faster than me with that exact same build when we were powerlevelling our guildmates.
The f is your ? It’s how you balance a game, there is no other way.
Yeh, you don’t know, you don’t have a damn proof, you’re just dropping random numbers to make your point valid, just stop it.
SR3 lacking single target damage ? Now I get it, you’re just ignorant 
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I half agree with you, because it’s still a problem if you can hit mobs too far away.
It’s your exemple that doesn’t make sense, they nerfed the range of the skill, not the AoE. Tiger range is ok.
Can you explain why? Just because SR has so low or non single target damage that makes it inappropiate for current end game?
Reasons one might be running low on SP with SRs:
Reasons one might be having way too low damage with SRs:
Or, in a summary:
You might be playing the class wrong. Or estimating the investment/weapon power in a way you shouldn’t.
I’ve been running Velcoffer with people using +15 T10 Masinios Pistol and it was very fine (they were using Plate Sets, so little bonus from armor set). It’s really viable for end-game if you know what you’re doing and what to expect.
Don’t get hit, you can jump near the end of the cast bar to Destroy Magic Circles and you won’t receive the SP drain.
Since this is the only thing from your post which is probably correct, I’d ask, why the ■■■■ don’t you have max level attributes on your main? What are you doing?
If you think an entire class sucks because you don’t want to invest in it, then none of the classes you play will be any good. That’s not a class problem, that’s a you problem.
Some of these players are too busy complaining about people’s hard earned gear. Some of these players don’t want to invest time on an MMO(which they can’t gain any progress to compete against another player unless they spend effort hehexd). Some of these players want to be spoon fed. Some of these players don’t like earning silver.
Some of these players…
I drink pots non stop on any class that I use chapparitions or glass moles with. That’s what you’re supposed to do 
I can agree it’s somewhat of a random nerf, though. If anything, this should have happened like a week after it was buffed but apparently, it was delayed and SR lost its popularity for several reasons that I won’t go into. It was silly that the range is kind of literally off your screen unless you have zoomy addon. There’s probably quite a few classes with over/undertuned skills that need a bit of tweaking. Hopefully one of many changes.
In content like challenge mode and Velcoffer’s Nest, the nerf does nothing. Seems like SR damage isn’t too bad in Velcoffer with retreat shot. I run it as well and believe it or not, I’m top dps in my party somehow (+19 aspana t10) with like 70 limacon attribute. It’s not really much of a problem is what I’m saying. If you don’t like it so much, use one of the rank resets from one of the several opportunities of obtaining them (free in mail, daily event, change last rank to pied piper and reset).
