that is completely untrue.
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Never experienced a âi hate BRâ like on this game - prob cause BRs dont play european server
But ya us european guys got the same attitude like NA guys - french players are black sheeps - in any instance âoh no i got french premades time to quitâ âoh no my whole pvp team is frenchâ etc etc wich was really heavy in TERA
in german forums its like: âhey why not open a baguette server for those guysâ
or during actual dungeons its the french to be blamed if anything went wrong going with stuff like âcome suck on my baguette filthy french dudeâŚl2pâ goes as far as french being used as an insult
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BRs are the boogieman. People say they âruin gamesâ but letâs face it, you just hate them because they donât speak english, and it annoys you a little.
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I saw a time ago that LevelUp with IMC will bring a server near Brazil.
I really donât know if it will bring good news to NA servers or notâŚ
Letâs waitâŚ
Source: http://levelupgames.uol.com.br/levelup/noticias/levelup/novidades/parceria-entre-a-level-up-e-a-imc-games-de-tree-of-savior.lhtml (Brazilian Portuguese)
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I had a BR friend who told me straight up that BRâs culture is messed up. People are generally mean and just donât care. Itâs like when I moved to America from Jamaica and I notice how differently people treated each other. In Jamaica we greet EVERYONE we make eye contact with, even if itâs a Stranger.
You cannot claim itâs racist to point out cultural differences.
Hell, you canât even say itâs racist because Brazilian is a Nationality; not a race.
The words youâre looking for is discrimination or prejudice. I just hate people loosely using the word âracismâ or âracistâ whenever a person has a dislike towards a specific group or community.
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Several years of online gaming, even been helping out some private servers finding/banning hackers (Hello RF online) And most players i banned were from a few different countries, i wont say most, but alot of them were infact BRâs.
Ive played other types of games, not only MMOâs where BR have been giving me a tough time. Few scenarios have been me getting teamed up with 4 BRâs guess who they blamed when something bad happened.
Doesnt stop me from saying ive met good people that are BRâs too, i dont hate BRâs but i judge them, until they prove me im wrong about themselves.
Right now ive met and iâm partying with some people from another country that i dont really favor much, but hey, they were cool people, and im having a blast playing ToS with them 
Ok⌠Iâve tried to understand some points but theres just⌠Too MuchâŚ
First of allâŚ
Iâve saw someone saying âItâs a international server and they donât speak englishâ
So⌠WHAT? Iâve saw many messages in russian, malaysian, french, spanish and god knows what elseâŚAnd no one complains about it.
The server is INTERNATIONAL, that means EVERYONE can play it.
Thats the beauty of it, just think about itâŚ
We can learn other languages and meet someone from another culture.
Some people just donât care about learning, theyâre just too comfortable thinking that they speak some language and the others should do the same 'cause its a international server using an english clientâŚ
Oh⌠And by the way⌠I learned my poor english just by playing games, it was hard, but at least most of you can understand what iâm saying.
Iâm trying and everyone should, instead of being so negative and hateful.
BRâs cheat? Ok⌠I donât know in what reality some of you are living, but theyâre not the only onesâŚ
Some may be using hacks, but theyâre not the ones who created or first used it.
Saying that Brazilians are the ones to blame, itâs just point a finger at a scapegoat.
And of course: âThey are ruining OUR gameâ
I agree with that is OUR gameâŚ
Itâs MEANT do be played for EVERYONE
Everyone CAN play IT and SHOULD.
Just keep it nice and have fun.
American, brazilan, lebanese ⌠It doesnât matterâŚ
If you are a person you are unique
And you canât be judged by the actions of others
People are so judgemental and they donât even know whyâŚ
Theyâre just repeating what they heardâŚ
And thats itâŚ
Just stop being xenophobic, judgmental and disrespectful and you should see the changes on both sides.
And we donât need this kind of segregation, thats just so rude and wrong.
XoXo
~Delano~
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forget about BR french are taking over ToS!!! lemme make 100 topics how bad french guys are and that each and every french has to be IP blocked and banned or the game is ruined wahhhhhhhhhhh tos dies now wahhhhhhh
NA guys crying to much - and ya i have to say crying - i dont see a single europe guy complaining about french doods on here xD the above is pure sarcasm - kids gotta grow up and learn to respect other countries âbut hes ksing meâ âbut hes speaking in a language i dont understand he HAS to speak in englishâ ya sure only BR ksing others thats a new rule rule set in mmos or wut - and yup sure its also a new rule that people who cannot speak english have to shut up and learn it to please others - why not learning their language for a change? âbut everyone speaks englishâ ya sure in your dreams - sorry for sounding rude i dont intend to
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People are not supposed to talk in english just because itâs an international game, i mean, here in Brazil many people dont speak english, BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW, and people want to play the games they like, so no, nobody is obliged to do an english course just to be able to play their favorite games, and where the hell did you get it that brazillians cheat more than other countries players?? Really, where thereâs cheaters, thereâs cheaters, i see as many cheaters from other countries as from brazil.
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You all are just weirdly predisposed to blaming everything on BRs. itâs more like you really, really want to blame BRs and so the scale of anything bad they do is blown up in your head.
I got called a âtrashbag brâ the one time in the game I acted like an â â â â â â â even though Iâm asian-american and live in california of all places. itâs wild.
If people have been whining for their entire population to be shoved off a game you paid for, for the few, youâd be pissed too. People donât owe you politeness nor patience if youâre intent on putting them down, you know. Is it âunwiseâ? yeah, but like any gaming community on this earth has anything that resembles grace. And of course you take their reaction as âlol classic br behaviorâ.
idk, pointless argument. itâs nearly impossible to change the minds of people who hate a large cetegory of people. every bad thing becomes a justification, and to make it worse, some brs will put other brs down to look like a âgood brâ. which, actually, is more or less the only way to get the seal of Your Grand Approval from americans.
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English is a world language though, might wanna study that some time.
Well, unless these people decides to live life through google translate, i guess.
âThese peopleâ, as in those who tries to excuse âdoesnt understand englishâ
God im starting to imagine people alt tabbing to read on net somewhere with translation from english to âXâ Language.
Edit: And no, im not from NA, but i had a really bad english teacher, so i had to teach myself english, and its still horrible.
âWhy is it okay to be super racist against BR?â
Let me ask you, why is it okay for Brazilians to be super racist against what they call âgringos?â I have seen JUST as many racist and hateful messages written by Brazilians directed at âgringosâ as I have seen directed at Brazilians by other nationalities. This is a two-way street, donât act like it isnât. There is no single victim in these vicious, petty, racist arguments.
The only major difference is, many of them do so in languages other than English, making it where a lot of people donât even realize they are being insulted because it is being said in a language they donât understand.
Then when it is reported, the Brazilians get away with it because the staff donât want to spend their time trying to run things through translators to determine if what was said is a bannable offense or not, meanwhile those who attack others in English DO get banned because the staff can easily check a comment written in English and tell it includes offensive material instantly.
I see some people already up in arms over that issue - that not speaking English is like a âget out of a ban freeâ card and that itself creates a rift between the two communities.
Even so, I would say it isnât âokayâ for ANYONE to be super racist about anyone else.
Do people on both sides do it? Absolutely.
Is it okay? No, not at all.
Will they continue to do it anyways? Of course.
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Very much false. . This just goes back to that stereotypes thing. I am a white American and I donât care what your religion is or nationality. While it can be cool to learn about a personâs homeland or a little about their religion itâs not a huge deal other than maybe the courtesy of learning a few things not to try to avoid insulting people.
Jerk bags (yes I am saying jerk bags because I donât feel like being censored) come from all walks of life from all over the world. Just as I have seen a lot of hate flung back and forth in ToS from all sides as well.
Just keep this in mind. One culture may find another a little more rude but it is something to keep in mind that the cultural norms for that person may find that behavior acceptable. While at the same time something you or I or someone else might do something we find acceptable that someone else finds rude or disrespectful.
In my line of work Iâve dealt with people that were originally from all over the place. Quite a few of them spoke English only decently, some barely at all. That didnât stop us from communicating as best we could and getting along. Quite a few times with the people I dealt with on a regular basis, it became a habit of playing practical jokes on each other now and then.
Itâs all a matter of an open mind and a willingness to try to work together. A language barrier can make it difficult, but not impossible if both sides try to make it work.
We are all here to play a game and enjoy ourselves. We just have to try to work together and get along as best we can.
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That is what I see in shouts:
Some br type anything portuguese, and next shout you see a Gringo blamming brs because they donât understand what was said.
Next shouts some brs will troll all gringos who loves to blames brs.
What a gringo have to do when see some portuguese senteces on shout:
Get your fat aâss out of that conversation.
Many times some brs got issues and ask on shout in portuguese because they know there are many brs playing and can help them in they native language.
I think it has to do with BRs being a closely knit group that doesnât succumb to Americanization and globalization. They are unwilling to be assimilated by other groups / cultures and will not participate in understanding other communities besides BR.
When they get into an in game environment. They just go about spamming everywhere BR? BR? BR? BR? When you do not identify as a BR they just ignore you and place no effort to socialize.
As opposed to many other nationality that does not do this, and socialize with people all around the world normally.
Hence being easily identified and targeted.
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Wow looks like mostly people here think that itâs actually fine to have a racist opinion because of some âbad historicâ⌠âTwo wrongs donât make a rightâ.
Almost all âcountryâ have done something stupid on the internet and some even worse, in life⌠and itâs fine to offend people of these country? because of some historic?
I have at least 15 yearâs playing mmoâs now, i have played games from beta to itâs end, and must say: Tos shows to be the one with the worst STARTING comunity by far.
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I never heard a single issue with Brâs in Wakfu (Beta) for exemple, and there you HAD to play in partyâs! and Lots of Brâs played the beta.
Luna online had a dugeon system called âDate Dungeonsâ where you random invite someone whith similar level and likes/dislikes for a âhunting dateâ and you could even put a flag of you country! never had a single issue with the brasilian flag!
The Br hue will be in every mmo, why? itâs a meme already! And itâs fine! you can make fun of a meme! but here in Tos itâs not in a joke level anymore.
Iâm not saying that the bad reputation donât have a reason, some REALLY make they reputation valid and itâs not a small number, no wonder some real hardcore gamers from brasil donât play on Br servers⌠Itâs easy to be a douch in you native language, and these trolls only want to be douches no matter where they are.
IMC really need to start doing something about this kind of behavior, especially about the ones in shout⌠and iâm talking about every racist shoutâs.
I donât know if i have more bots on block list or ppl who shout racist comments (From both sides, after all we also see lots of Brasilians racists shouts)
And about the language problem, i find it very disrespectful to not talk in the server language, if you want to use the shout then itâs to everybody and you should use the server language in it! but that works to all not only brâs! lotâs of games you have a RULE for this, think itâs time for us to make that rule.
But itâs not because Brâs donât want to socialize, itâs because the education system is very bad and mosty ppl have to self-learn any language they want (iâm one of them).
Also iâm pretty sure Brasil is one of the mosty open immigration country in the world, we also have one of the mosty diverse culture.
Sorry the wall text and all these gramma error, english learned through games /ashamed.
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oh my god youâre stupid. of course it was possible to do the exploit anywhere in the world, but almost 99% of the cases involved BRAZILIANS exploiting A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY PAYMENT SYSTEM FLAW IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STEAM EXPLOIT
Oh, the guy who was spamming against brazilians in every topic in the forums? I missed you!
Seriously now, calling me stupid just shows who has third world politeness. Nothing more to add.
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âracism: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.â
It is in fact NOT RACIST to hate people based on their country of origin. Itâs only racist⌠when you hate them for their RACE. Itâs right there in the word. This SHOULD NOT be as hard as you all are making this.
In an online forum, your words are all that anyone has to go on, to form an opinion of the weight and validity to give to your thoughts and ideas. Blatant use of the incorrect word, and a refusal to change are very telling, and arenât doing you any favors.
Specifically, Iâm forced to believe you donât know what youâre talking about, and will dismiss the rest of the post out of hand.
Words represent concepts; by their misuse you are deteriorating that very concept and further, cheapening it.
Language is important.
âIf you can destroy language then you can destroy thought. When you canât articulate how you feel then you canât raise your voice against the party.â
-George Orwell, 1984
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