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[Update] Daily dungeon 2 entrances +1 extra with token

The lost entrances WILL be given to VIPs, that’s for sure.
2 for F2P and 5 for Cash shop, this much is pretty obvious.

The +600% is true, but even if it wasn’t, do you even begin to understand what 8 instance runs per day would do to this game? I don’t think you comprehend.
5 runs per day already make most other activities pretty pointless because of how good dungeons are in terms of EXP, 8 per day is so ridiculous.

I am very much aware as to what might happen to the “leveling curve” as it were.

Obviously, these are hypothetical numbers based on a hypothetical situation of “if this reduction is activated…”

If it depended on me, I would make 1 run every 12 hours, and 2 runs with Tokens.

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Yeahhhh power to the $$$$$$$$

Let’s surrender our souls to capitalism. More is better. Money makes the world go round.

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God Damn, this game is actually going very fast into the P2W area.
2 dungeon runs for regular players, 5 for token? damn, that’s the kind of ■■■■ that’s going to develop more and more up untill the game is actually really ■■■■■■■ p2w(Which will prob be the downfall of the game sadface).
I liked the idea the first time I read it but then, I saw the Token thingy, ugh.

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I’m not defending it, but honestly you shouldn’t be this surprised. It’s a free to play MMO, this is nothing compared to what we should be expecting.

now now, this isn’t confirmed yet to be placed or activated.

and this is why I would want to have an alternative @Narue, one opinion that resonates with different people.

Obviously an alternative is good, but your alternative would just break the game. That’s not a good alternative.

I already offered my alternative which is a lot more fair and not as p2w.

and that’s why it hurts… cause we shouldn’t be expecting it…

is like living on a war zone and getting use to the explosions and screams of children…

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My initial one was really 4 Regular +1 with Token

the 5 (+3) one is more of a response against IMC messing with core gameplay.

Oh, didn’t see that one, sorry. Obviously 4+1 would be “better” for the players but I don’t think it will happen.

As to what will actually happen, I am not too sure. The data gives a very bad vibe and another point for people to be negative again.

And I’m sick with the negativity… and its only been around 12 hours since the announcement…

As for my idea… its worth a shot

I think it’s fine as long as you can’t just buy dungeon entrances one after the other without a limit.

Lowering is good, making it available for token users not so good.
I mean, if you do 5 runs it becomes quite boring, thats all…

Dammit… this ■■■■ again. Everyone get your pitch forks again, seems IMC is a slow learner.

Isn’t this a good change? I never played kToS so I can’t say from experience whether more or less dungeon runs is better, but based off this kToS player’s feedback it seems less dungeon runs would be better.

I don’t want want the game to tell me how to level, but since dungeons are the fastest way to level you are kind of being forced to spend 100 to 150 mins each day doing dungeons. Reducing the number of daily runs from 5 to 2 means it will be 20-30 mins each day instead - which I think is slightly more reasonable.

The only better solution I can think of would be nerfing dungeon EXP or buffing field EXP instead. But I think the 600% EXP in dungeons was IMC’s idea of appealing to casuals. So, maybe put no limit on dungeons, but instead give players 1 scroll each day that increases EXP to 600% for 30 mins that players can use where ever they want?

Edit: Nvm. I didn’t see that “3 extra with token” part. That is ridiculous. I don’t mind the reduction in dungeon runs, but you shouldn’t get any extra with a token.

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I played during iCBT2, but didn’t get far enough to experience the importance of dungeon runs xp-wise. So I don’t really have an opinion on the matter.

My main concern isn’t only the reduced number but also the 3 extra with token, it doesn’t seems fair (3 free and 2 extra with token would have been a bit more fair in my eyes). I do think that buffing field EXP is required as well, but again, not enough experience to be sure.

Edit (cause your edit): IMO, you should have extra with token, IMC need incentive and value for the tokens. But having more extra than normal doesn’t make sense, yep. As @daimian_nightwing suggested, 4 runs with 1 extra seems the most reasonnable.

I really like that ! I play MMOs to meet people and play with them, having to use cross-server matchmaking (without the option to queue with friends) to be “optimal” is a real let done for me.

It’s official now: Linker class will be moved to rank 6 soon (nerfing is not enough). Melisandre saw it in the flames kappa.

Thanks for f u c k i n g up my planned builds.

Level 10 HK (Rank 4 at least) = 3 sec disable
Level 10 Sleep (Rank 2) = 12 seconds

Icefrog plz buy ToS

What is taking its place in rank 3? Also unless something from 6 is moving i guess that means this will be a hidden class?

[3/16/2016 Update]

Here’s new client side changes as of March 16th.

  • Translator achievement added for those that contribute to the translation project (with ‘Contributor’ title)
  • Steady Aim duration reduced from 15s to 10s.
  • Steady aim’s description was updated from “Increases the attack power of the next missile type attack” to “Increases the attack power of missile type attacks”.
  • Description of token was updated to add “Increases the number of daily dungeon & mission usages by 1”
  • Daily dungeon access was reduced from 2 + 3 with token to 1 + 1 with token.
  • TP Package contents reduced from 500/350/200 to 360/230/110 TP. The steam preorder packages now list the new 360/230/110 TP values instead of their originals.
  • Warp scroll cost increased from 1 TP to 2 TP.
  • Soul Crystal cost increased from 2 TP to 3 TP.
  • Microphone cost increased from 1TP to 2 TP.
  • Removed microphone bundle, soul crystal bundle, and enchant scroll bundle.
  • Free TP regen rate increased from 2 hours to 4 hours.
  • A UI frame is added that tells you that you require DLC which is added when you buy the founder bundle to log in.
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