All is read about is how to get the max dmg, is it really only me who sees rogue as a support/utility class?? Dont try do all the dmg, just get 5 stuns in the build and let your party kill them. As for pve, i dont really care a lot so…
hahah I agree, i think i would end up playing a debuffer rogue or something like that with a shield like in RO
Can u give me insight markgilbert? Rogue C3 - Help with Burrow usable skills and build
The Rogue was meant to be the assassin class in Tree of Savior though, so obviously the class was meant to deal damage.
Though with the backstab nerf, the class did become more of a utility class w/ self buffs.
It will work but the improvement is very miniscule. I don’t know how many times I’ve explained this but I’ll keep repeating, that 50% bonus from Cloak is just 50% of your physical attack added.
So considering you’re using Headshot as an example. That 300% becomes 350%.
That bonus from Cloaking is a noob trap.
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I don’t know. Maybe very high crit rate boost, high STR boost and “backstab” spelled DPS? Oh, and the class color is red? Maybe, just maybe it was meant to do damage?
It is a trickster class I get it, but the main theme of the class is being an assassin. The word “Backstab”, “Sneak Hit” and “Vendetta” are the clues.
Actually iirc circling with barrage is bugged atm
Hello, i would like to ask if you ever tried backstab lvl 5 and lvl 10 in compared dmg or crit multiplier, maybe the multiplier is increased over level?
None. I have played Rogue C2 for too long while grinding at Alemeth and it barely got any improvement when I hit Rogue C3 and pumped Backstab to Lv10.
Here is what i thought regarding you dropping c2 rogue, i suggest dont lol because theres no point in getting rogue without c2 at least even with crappy backstab, its what makes us rogue…rogue
I got my 170 ish rogue now im trying to start a new with new view and knowledge, and a char below 170 is just plain time investing without grinding because only exp card from questing involved
By this answer i think i got some insight about how to play rogue lol, allright thanks i think my build will excel at group pvp 5-10 vs 5-10
It gets just a very lil boost.
Think about how Grave Crossbow(gives+3 to backstab), it barely incrases damage.It’s just +2 skill levels above that.
Yea. This really needs some fix. IIRC, some koreans have found out that Barrage is just 4 AOE attack ratio per arrow so Circling actually has some synergy to it.
You can use bows with running shot as far as I know.
Fient + barrage will be fix ?
The Feint + Barrage combo doesn’t seem to be a glitch by itself. It’s just that Circling’s debuff messes up with it and makes the combo hit less instead. It’s Circling’s debuff that needs fixing, not Feint+Barrage combo.
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OMG really? thats very sad… I dont see Falconer as the top choice anywhere…but if their skills are bugged…I see even less people going into it 
I would say both…Feint should not give more damage imo, just less evasion…and circling should be the one that gives the damage to Barrage in this case… seems more fair to me, and also more attractive to become Falconer…but well maybe they can fix Falconer first so we can enjoy insane damage…forever? 
That doesn’t mean you MUST build for max dmg, i don’t know if you played ro, but if you wanted a full strip stalker, you had to sacrifice dmg, and the same for the plagiarism,if you wanted to copy skills, you had to sacrifice full strip. Rogue still works the same; you can get to rogue with your crapy barrage and have a great pve, or you can build a QS and make a pvp toon.
Monk is color red, he does dps, and still can be considered a support, same for the sapper and utility.
You sound as you know a lot of things Dream, but you are Roguec3, something i find useless. No offense.
The color coding is IMC’s way to say that the class is leaning more towards doing damage. Monk needed red color because it was leaning more towards doing damage than being a support. Sapper is red because all of it’s skills if not most, does damage.
You don’t compare ToS to RO because ToS is a whole different game.
Excuse me?
I am totally happy with a pure STR rogue. I was just disappointed by the fact that Backstab was massively nerfed and there are tons of skills disabled while using Burrow.
But that doesn’t mean that the core setup of my build which is Pure STR + Running Shot’s huge modifier + Sneak Hit failed. In fact, I underestimated the synergy and it proved to be extremely powerful.
You sound like you know less about the game mark, but you’re trying too hard to give criticism w/o knowledge background. Something I find pathetic. No offense.
Why not Rogue C3? (I was a Rogue/Stalker FS in RO haha)