Don’t forget that the map is just a pretty picture. It can be changed at the developer’s whim right up until the servers close for the final time in 30 years.
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Well, as a investor and the conversation been created. Im just followed and answer.
Im consider as one of the Casual Gamer from our conversation.
Yeah, I saw the first one while searching for a recipe. And I was surprised to learn that it was a map full of quests…
Well, at least I believe these maps would have helped me (and the OP as well). Not only cuz the extras quests, but the mobs.
The OP isn’t really complaining about the difficulty of grinding, but how hard is it for the casual gamer to cope with grinding design in the game. A game shouldn’t make you feels like quitting if you did something wrong, the game should provide you enough fun and motivation to move on.
You are not considered a casual gamer the moment you start googling for answer on how to proceed in the game, or even tried to goes through the grinding wall where many casual players gave up.
None of the players who discussed on any topic (exception to those whose asking really beginner question) on this forum is casual player. A casual player will NOT participate in this forum.
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Calm down, calm down. since you still reply my question. lolz… 
no one set the rules that casual player will not participate in this forum.Right?
for my personal, from what I seen and play so far, I will support this game.
No rules on that but a casual will never come to the forum and argue with me.
They wouldn’t even care to waste their time here.
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May be I’m the 1?..who know? No trouble.
No idea. I’m not a hardcore player, I did a lot of mistakes and I’m still playing just fine…
As I said before I think the OP simply skipped a lot of quests. And according to the devs “secret” quests will be muuuch more common in the future, so my recommendation is still avoid the rush or you will be bound the grinding curse… FOREVER. /evillaugh
It is true that my motivation declined upon reach lv75.
I also don’t know why, maybe the questing momentum suddenly break there.
Grind? You bet it, i’m a casual player hv a job/family and online 2-3h per day on peak hours. Well the grind quality is very bad, the efficiency is like 1/4 of playing in off-peak hour. Need more channels seriously.
On top of that, the grinding is very boring, is ok if mobs is passive or slow, is ok if Cooldown is long, is ok if castime is long, is ok if SP consumption is high, and is ok if attack speed is slow. But, when all these sum together, the experience is not smooth, not dynamic and not addictive, it left a lot of downtime especially wizard.
Maybe we just need to get rid the lv75 bottleneck in order for more dynamic battle, but it is CBT we don’t want to spend so much efforts.
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relax~~… pls check the image below. about world map. CheerS\s:sunglasses:
don’t worry about exp card, the rates will be divided at the release by 3 
So, you won’t see any difference! You will grind, because you can’t rise enough with only using exp card :3
And that’s why ppl keep stuck at 7X.
Source: Me, I also skipped these places on my first character. LOL.
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~Yup…Need to explore more. Well, that map is be4 I search the world map. If when I reach 60++ at the Gytis settlement. Just bad ass to go highest lvl map. Then opened that lvl 84 map and (head back to Gytis settlement just in sec)…lolz
Is when*
Sry…not - if when
lolz
Scrapped the text because would sound offensive but.
What a user here says sounds like saying “Who cares about casual players? I can play normally, that is what matter.”
And yes, the world map does not makes sense.
I had to stop my expedition to the Mage’s Tower, because had to move to the Entrance of Kateen Forest to get some level, and that is kind of troublesome, because I were expected in the dungeon trying to reach Gabija, not stopping halfway because I cannot survive in the dungeon, and because the leveling area is somewhere else.
stop propagating that stupid rumour. the rates for itos are not decided on right now. the rates for the first icbt were low so we would focus on the lower level areas.
the rates might as well be double that of the current rates, nobody knows…
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So in this thread people are telling us we suck for not saving cards for proper levels? ROFL
I didn’t know an MMORPG needed card management like Yugioh. Also people are defending the game for lacking maps to level because we should be using cards???
The worst thing is people blaming other for not hunting every single NPC to grab every single tiny and boring quest because it’s the only way to level up.
So TOS is only about hunting quest, managing cards and grinding at some level because it’s less boring and tedious. Hardly the characteristic of a good MMORPG
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Nobody is telling u guys suck. 
I don’t know man. It seems that most user here doesn’t understand the difference between “the grinding is not fun for casual player” and “the grinding is too hard for casual player”.
I’m tired of all the argument that claimed that “the grinding isn’t too hard all you have to do is -insert solution here-”. Seriously? I wasn’t even trying to say that grinding is too hard. I’m just trying to say the current grinding model will make the casual player leave because it’s not fun, and there is no reason for you to find fun in a game proactively.
I understand that English isn’t the first language of many users here, but I just hope most of them will at least read and understand before making any statement for the sake of arguing. I can read poor English but not when someone is not even arguing on the same topic with me.
They are implying. It’s even worst if you didn’t realize that most of the argument here can be tl;dr with “you sucks”.
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