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The Chapel [Cleric Build Discussion]

Class and Rank Cleric
#165

i played something like 70 con, 80 str and the rest in dex

it was really good, if you’re going monk you can decide if you’ll focus on DEX or STR, the main difference being the dodge rate and overall dmg

if you go DEX, you’ll dodge a lot, and the crit pays off the fact you’re not investing in STR, if you choose to focus on STR you won’t crit or dodge that much, but you gain 10% bonus STR and INT every time you rank up (+60% STR on rank 7), so your damage probably will be higher, on the other hand, if you don’t invest enough on DEX you’ll probably miss very often on full DEX characers in PvP
(keep in mind it’s not possible to reach 100% dodge or 100% crit, it feels like both cap around 75~80%, but there is nothing “official” on those rates, and probably classes with +80~+100% dodge buffs will feel like impossible to hit as long as the buffs are up, but owls never miss ;D)

if you only care about diev though, i think that >maybe< the best choice would be to go for cleric - something - diev 3 - something - plague doctor, those something could lead you to a lot of different builds, INT oriented

#166

@pop_coe14 @goldmnjp

They do. Gwenyth did a test with weapons and I think that’s enough… It gets matk like any other magic skill.

Altough it’s quite hard or kinda boring to play with an INT Dievdirbys imo. I actually had one…and maybe I made a mistake when I chose Priest at rank2 and I didn’t have Zaibas… and I didn’t get any magic skill on the first circle of Diev so I kinda had a bad time with it… XD I still could level with it btw… so maybe later it could have been fine but I reseted to DEX and it was so much more comfortable. …but also it was in 2nd icbt so things changed since then.

#167

What do you guys think of this build?

This is meant to be an int and spr based cleric, good at dealing damage for solo levelling and a healer in parties. Iam open to all criticism since I am not experienced in clerics yet.

#168

The Str cleric classes are only Chaplain, Paladin and Monk or am I missing some?

#169

Diev has some physical skills

#170

Plague Doctorn can also easily be played as a physical class, with all the skills having a small range and all.
And if you REALLY wanted couldn’t Druid be physical via transformations?

#171

It can work, but might not be the best route.

Either way i would recommend you to rush towards taking priest3+ army chaplain first to take advantage of chaplain’s huge auto atk dmg. It should make leveling a lot easier and thus less time consuming.

And i’m not sure you’ll offer enough healing without heal lvl10+. It simply scales far better with int and 2x10 tiles every 27 seconds is quite good. Mass Heal is just a aoe heal every 30 seconds. Healing Factor definitely helps but that only saves one person at a time.

Plague Doctor is one of the better options for chaplains atm, even if you won’t be able to get full use out of fumigate.
I’m a bit torn on krivis though, as daino scrolls might make other class selections more preferable.

And you will need to sacrifice certain good options in priest3 due to a lack of skill points either way.
I would take 5 points from blessing and put them into sacrament though, since it scales sacred rites.
And a higher level stone skin would also be nice, but likely not worth the cost of lowering points from something else.

There’s also:
Bokor’s Bwa Kayiman - But likely won’t be viable late game due to the low level.
Dievdirby’s Carve - But it’s more of a utility then str dmg skill.
Druid’s Shape Shifting, Telepath & Transform - But weren’t worth using during icbt2.
Arguably Priest/Army Chaplain are also decent options for auto atk based str builds.

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#172

I would argue that Chaplain is an Int cleric class, since they have magnus and apergillum which scales off int, in fact none of their skills scale off STR.

#173

I think it’s fine…I’m just not sure if sacrament is enough like that or not because of the last rite synergie… but no one rly knows…or tells XD how last rite works so…

@Delcas
You rly shouldn’t look at them like that and that’s what most ppl don’t understand… I think only 1 Cleric is rly not advisable for physical Clerics and that is Sadhu…
Pardoner c3 will have a powerful physical attack too that costs money btw…
So most of the classes are mixed or can help you in a way.

But I’m sure too that there will be more Cleric classes with actual physical damage skills later…

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#174

Almost all classes of the cleric tree can be helpful to Str buid (which goes very well with Spr). The base class already provides a malus remaining useful late in the game: Deprotected Zone. And with C2, Divine Might can be combined with all the skills, including physical ones. Kirvis is not necessarily a Int oriented class. With Zalciai and some Spr, this class gives a bonus to auto attack. C2 Divine Stigma can give 43 Str which is not bad. Aukuras remains an interesting skill for stationary classes as Dievdirby or Paladin. The Priests probably offer the best bonus for offensive skills and basic attacks. Monstrance combines well with Zalciai, not to mention Blessing or Sacrament who really help. Aspersion can also be used for a physical character with some points in Con. Bokor C2 can help a lot for physical classes with Bwa Kayiman which is much more interesting than the auto attack and very fun to use with lots of zombies. Dievdirby statues help both supports and offensives classes. C1 may be sufficient but combines well with Paladin. Zemyna help with low base sp and Laima with long CD. Carve is a correct skill that can be used when other skills are on CD.

For other classes, I don’t know which are compatible with a physical build. Certainly not Sadhu. Pardoner can help for defensive builds with some Spr. Str does not add much to Druids. Maybe a bit for transformations. The Oracle is a strictly supportive class. Arcane Energy can help Monk with the addition of 25Sta. Plague Doctor or Kabbalist can be used in a physical build with heals, mirrors, immunities or HP/SP conversion. Finally, Chaplain remains a good candidate for an auto attack oriented build.

Clerc C1/C2
Priest C1/C2 (C3)
Kirvis C1/C2
Dievdirbys C1
Bokor C2
Paladin C1/C3
Monk C1/C2
Chaplain C1

An example with a build for a physical and support Paladin.( STR/SPR):
Cleric C1 / Kirvis C1 / Priest C1 / Paladin C1-C3 / Dievdirby

#175

Hey I thought of making 2 different clerics and I just want to know if they’re ok or not.

  1. Cleric C2 -> Diev C3 -> Oracle C2
    (Mainly because I love diev and oracle, probably will go oracle C3 when possible for the gender swap skill)
  2. Cleric C1 -> Krivis C2-3 -> Sadhu C2-3 -> Kabbalist C1
    (With this I dont know if I should take c3 from sadhu or krivis on that I don’t really have a preference if some other class would fit there nicely with c1 I’m open for suggestions)

Basically theres all the cleric classes I wanna make so far, if those builds are terrible I could consider a third one but I hope those are ok.

(For now stat builds or skills don’t matter but if you want to share your knowledge I wouldn’t mind.)

#176

You could take cleric c2 too, on the second build

To get cure and safety zone attributes, plus divine might and heal tiles

#177

Anyone have any videos demonstrating the range of incineration? How far away can you cast it?

#178

I’d rush Priest c3 because you’ll have an easier time lvling up and Zaibas c1 is pretty weak :C . You should also consider taking Resurrection to lv5 and taking the points away from Blessing(Now that we know Blessing’s hit is only reduced by one per skill/auto even with multiple hits so you shouldnt really bother too much about it).
BTW; Priest and Chaplain aren’t classes with actual stat scaling(IMO). If you go STR/SPR(no dex, ofc) your aspersion is going to hit almost as hard as INT and the overall damage will end up basically the same(1str=1autodmg, 1spr=1aspersion damage, just like how 1int=1aspersion dmg). Mass heal’s scaling with int/spr is also borderline irrelevant considering that it has such a high base value.

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#179

Build 1: I really like this build and think Oracle C3 will be a great Rank 8. In fact, I changed my build in the original post to be Cleric C2 instead of Krivis C1.
Build 2: I recommend going Cleric C1 -> Krivis C2 -> Sadhu C2 -> Cleric C2 -> Kabbalist. Fade (Cleric C2) goes great with Sadhu and so does the improved safety wall.

@Anadriel Great summary that is very accurate and informative.

@Remiri How does Apergillum scale with int? Basic attacks scale with STR and most of Chaplain’s skills are basic attack-based. But I agree Chaplains can also be Int-based and it would be a great build.

@elfochka I don’t think Krivis fits too well in that build, but it’s a great build path otherwise. I would get Cleric C2 instead, maybe putting it in after Chaplain (getting Priest C3->Chaplain right away like iago_l and Wurmheart said). See the second build in the original post.

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#180

So theorized build

going DEX-CON with hopes of X% chance 1HitKO from Decatose and dropping 1.9k coins doing so. aka RO Mammonite.

Sadhu is there for PvP gap-closer but Paladin is alternate choice for PvE. since its physical base.

So Decatose build?

#Yey
or
#Nay
or

#WTF

any one got video of skill Decatose.

#181

That.
Decatose still has no videos last time I checked because there aren’t PardonersC3, it’s pretty bad on paper anyways though.

Sadhu at C1 is a waste considering at C2 you get the best skill the class has in Posession. Why do so much people come with Cleric->Krivis->Priest->whatever builds? That sucks, it’s terrible, straight up wasting ranks.

#182

all my theorized cleric builds are this Cleric->Krivis->Priest->whatever builds with the exception of 2.

#Resu + Daino.

Daino isnt for me but for a party. I wont be playing with guilds for the first months of ToS which will be played with IRL friends who will probably quit within the year.

#183

Or you could make a focused build and have a good party composition.
Boom.
Daino can be ignored via proper timing of Priest buffs intead of spaming all of them at any moment.

Pardoner is also pretty useless without a focused build of Krivis or Priest for actual money making.

#184

So wahts your suggestion for unrealistic DPS Pardoner which isnt a DPS class at all. Build around to support Decatose.

#specialsnowflakebuilds