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Team Dex Vs Team Str ( Trash talking, discussion, roasting each other, math magician war ) Aka Debate STR Vs DEX

The person i replied to was asking for a build that can make poor farm effectively. Learn to read my reply to the guy. How much is your cost for repair btw? Do you think youre effective in farming? By going full dex you have evasion and can afford to use cafrisun all the way to lvl 280.

why would you want to use cafrisun to lvl 280? even just questing without any dungeons can give you enough silver for a proprer white plate set. or a white leather set w/e you like.
again not investing a singlle point into str on a pve swordsman is simply stupid.
Also a doppel 3 is not a dex class. And their skills are not the same as rank 8 lancer/dragoon2/murmilo skills.

Because it cost more for repair? And cafrisun cost less for bigger benefits for auto attacking? You cant do that by going High STR or full str. Basically you suck at farming.

i never said to go full str i said to add some str
also, at lvl 280 mobs will have more than 130k hp, this is where the additional hit with the arde dagger ( or even pardoner’s blessing) will fall off hard and won’t justify sticking with a cafrisun set at lvl 280.
My swordy only got 200 str lol.
Full str is as bad as full dex btw.
This is not all of nothing
why not have both? something like 2:1 str dex or 2:1 dex str with 70-80 con seems to me like a nice and balanced stat allocation.
The dex and str debate again is not about farming. Very limited way of thinking.
Not everyone create a character just so it will be able to farm all day and do nothing else since magic murder it and you’ll be a burden at ET or in GvG.

Dex vs STr is not all about bigger damage. It also includes other factor youre incapable of learning.

its also about pvp,
but you won’t crit in pvp anyway so thats out of the discussion.
Farming methods belong to another topic, i am sure this guy is not interested in creating a character that is built around only farming and using a lvl 15 set at lvl 280 because its cheaper for you.
2:1 str dex/dex str is probably 1 of the most balanced stat builds in this game and you could never go wrong with it.

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What are these things youre incapable of learning about dex and str? Name all them to me. I mean ALL. If your brain cant find them all, then youll know by now how narrow minded that youre.

that someone doing it wrongly, lul, my maximum dmg i can do is 50k per hit as full str as doppel

you seem to be incapable of hearing other people’s opinion. just like akisera said if you are that bad at surviving that you need full evasion and think that full evasion is the “ONLY BUILD FOR SWORDIES AND ARCHERS!!” then really you need to get out of your box
i have tried both builds, still like a balanced 2:1 allocation with 80-100 con.
I don’t think you ever tried building a character without full dex.

The debates and arguments with “THEORY” and “QUESTING levelling” base no experiences with actual GVG or World Boss or Earth Tower still goes on…without anyone providing videos.

The minute I read someone wants to play SOLO and argue his points with playing SOLO, I am wondering r u playing the wrong game? This is an MMORPG, join a guild and be specific with your role. And when I read someone wanna PVP with Doppel and asking ppl to raise accuracy with dex, srsly…you should ve went Cata 3 not Doppel, wrong classes IMHO.

Guys…this is why the forum sucks, its all theory and many individual personal weak experiences that are providing subpar opinions. And here I am uploading my new Mega World Boss video with rank 2 DPS and cubes, my equipments and attributes so done and I still have 14m left lol, good luck trying to get anywhere with theory

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LOL this.
they also seem to have a problem hearing other opinions
"you must be stupid if you don’t agree with me"[quote=“akisera, post:186, topic:321139”]
The minute I read someone wants to play SOLO and argue his points with playing SOLO, I am wondering r u playing the wrong game?
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you are not forced to play in a party actually. This is wrong. imc is wrong for forcing people to party.
But this “solo farming in nahash forest” guy really is stupid. You are right about that

Pretty sure you are given the choice to either solo or go with a party, stop staying in your box not knowing about MMORPG.

You party when you want to, you solo when you don’t. Both have their own benefits.

Good luck soloing earth tower/ world boss/ play whatever u want =)

But don’t go and share its a good build for many occassions, its not.

And I am pretty sure u r the one staying in ur own box for arguing in a forum, please show videos of your achievements in game, earth tower? world boss? equipments done? i duno just show, m i in my own box? Hay…I played every content…what about u??

the “solo farming blue spion archers” guy really is stupid
and you probably will never be able to solo any of them,
i am not in favor of "ITS FULL DEX OR NOTHING’ or "FULL STR IS THE BEST"
this seems to be the opinions here
ITS EITHER THIS OR THAT
its a wrong approach.

Your level of understanding is quite low sadly, would I enter earth tower solo? no.

Would I go field farming solo? Yes, you get to farm things you need specially when you got debuff from WBs, at least that’s what I do.

not sure how it relates to str vs dex. its not like you cannot farm if you don’t have dex or the other way around.
This game is built in a way that no matter what you add, if you play a class with a good damage, you’ll deal good damage. this isn’t all about solo farming and "i need the repair costs to be cheaper"
if you need to use a cafrisun set until lvl 280 cuz its cheaper no wonder you have problems to survive.

oh, I guess the differences is clear, i have friend who carry me in dullahan every 2 hrs while u hav to farm urself.

i carry them back in mega wb and et.

i dun do boring grinds =)

u want to solo, u dunwan frens, i get the point sir, good luck with high/full dex solo single player games, no guild, no frens, no gvg, no wb, no content.

Because dex builds are actually strong to solo with…?

But yes, sorry for going a little off topic.

tell this to @jynxie10 aka mr red spion archer expert.

I actually do WBs, just not dullahan. I log off after that, I’m just waiting for R8 while playing other games.

yes, my guild is active in ET/WB/etc, I just don’t join them except for the bosses I want, which are Helga and Ellaganos.

Told you to stay out of your box, you only see things from your point of view, we are not you, we have our own things to do in this game.