Dex vs Str Debate for Doppels:
If you are a min/max player and want to MAXIMIZE THE FULL POTENTIAL of your class please go Full Str/Con 2:1 leave your dex at 20 and equip 7 lvl 10 Ellaganos Cards for 70 free dex.
If you are going Dexterity Doppel… the fact of the matter is you are severely gimping yourself. Please do not do this unless you are just playing this game to see yellow numbers.
*Disclaimer - this is in regard to doppels not any other swordsman class.
All the best
-S
The war still on going, so far the STR Team bring out their spectacular video against the Dex Team. But no worry Dex team are Math magician they can bring out the calculator to prove science, dex is better anyday. Even our boy Lenny pull out a video that Dex build is superior than STR build: http://blog.naver.com/king_sop/22079257657215
But who will win when rank 8 come out ? Find out next on the next episode of DRAGON BALL ZZZZZZZZZZZZ GT
Edit: Anyway boy I’m making two character 1 str and 1 dex 
but see you guys fight for this ■■■■ is hilarious
you want to make damage? str
you want to pvp and not dodge 90% of the time? dex
for swordies str scales WAAY better than dex. we are not archers.
Still if you want to pvp you need dex.
Nop, DEX it’s not a Gimping on your character. That’s simply because or numbers right now are really low.
You see, a Swordsman who put all his points in STR will have about 700 more attack points than on who put it all in dex.
So, let’s say both these swordsman reach 1700 attack points without accounts for their stats. The STR-swordie will get 700 more points with STR, so he will hit for 2400 damge. The DEX one, will get 50% more damage, so 2450. If the day ever comes when STR makes up for less than half your P.Attack, DEX will be clearly superior
Fencer C3 disagrees.
But on a serious note. Can I make a Doppel build that highly favors Dex for evasion and survivability instead of damage. I still have no idea how you guys can activate DOV lv10 and comfortably deal damage. That’s INSANE. I died like a biatch whenever DOV is on
i used to be in favor of high dex BUT things changed
let me tell you this. If you want to deal the most damage you can then str is the choice for a swordsman, for archers you do need dex for more damage but swordies have a str buff and different scaling multipliers, making str better for damage
i have tried both now if you want to pvp you need a nice amount of dex
for pve and dealing damage, dex is next to useless for swordsmen as of now.
Fencer might be the only swordsman class where dex is recommended for pve. DoV is just too good IMO to build dex
if you want survivability its better to just build high con and get a peltasta circle.
DEX vs STR depends on:
Class Build
Item Choices
Situations, you want solo or party situations? And if party situations, what supports are you going to consider? Krivis1priest 3 high spr? INT Dievs? Chronomancers?
There are some classes that do favor DEX, but not full dex builds.
There are some classes that favor STR. yes, one can go full str. With hardcore grind, decent crit chance is achievable (lvl 6 gems).
DEX only starts to show up when one is itemized enough for it.
STR shows up since the start, and gearing for it incllude boosting damage even more.
Would would itemizing for DEX look like?
Idk i have only researched itemization for full STR builds.
Although i do have an idea: items that boost critical attack, physical attack, some crit rate still because DEX alone isnt enough to achieve ideal crit rate solo.
In party scenarios, mainly those that include a High SPR krivis1 with zalciai, high Str or full str builds are gonna do better >.>
Lucky, i have a stat reset potion.
Going for full str for now, as it is superior and gonna see how stuff works out.
That’s what people don’t understand.
Even though STR can easily boost lower numbers, what’s gonna make maximize your skill damage is DEX after all
I think in the end str dex hybrid will offer superior damage.
High upgrades. The stronger your weapon is, the stronger your crits will be. Thats the scaling vs flat damage.
What about hop3/doppel/goons? would it be better to go str also?
You can still get 830 p attack from full str build with lvl 330 cap.
602 p attack from 3 str: 1 con build.
This scales well with DoV. Dragoon 2 builds have it at least at lvl 5.
Yeah I know that Str is needed for more damage but what’s the point of more damage when you are dead? Unless you have tons of SUPPORT, something solo players like me can’t really afford. FYI, I do have a circle of Pelt in my Doppel build but trying to do mobs 10 levels higher than me is pretty much suicide. Especially in missions where mobs levels can go even higher. Thanks IMC.
I think I will stick to Fencer for now. Going Doppel High Str is not really my thing, especially when you have to jump around like a monkey to avoid boss attacks
Dunno bout’ other classes.
I remember reading somewhere here in the forums someone doing skill damage tests with a ‘full dex vs full str’ swordies, and results were hardly notable, full str built’s damage didn’t go past 3k difference(total dmg) against the full dex.
Unless skills properly get good scaling modifiers, in later levels dex will still be better against str by just only a little.
Survivability>>DPS imo.
I only have level 3 DoV and oh boy it already hits like a truck. I have full plate mastery and full plate set, whenever I fully stack my DoV, damages from Siau mission goes from 1k to 2-3k. I think defense isn’t linear as -1 def = 1 additional damage as everybody thinks it is.
Def is definitely great against multi hit skills but not against something like Meteor. I bet those top Doppel players have Clerics running around to heal them almost 24/7
I think its clear here in the swordsman sub-forum that i advocate high str builds with minimal dex now here’s a guy that has videos to back up his claims, may he be supported by a party or not the point is that str still brings out swordsman to its full potential now you dex peeps are only countering his claims with just theories with no concrete evidences of your claims i suggest post you’re videos to counter his claims and then we’ll talk.
Edit:
Exclude fencers in this debate because obviously we all know that fencers especially fencer3 benefits from high dex builds.