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*** Swordsman Classes Need to be Fixed *** [IMC, are you looking at this?]

No problems soloing content in this game as a swordsman, always been in a solo party since level 1

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Man, you were right all along! I can indeed solo the mobs just like others!

No need for the buffs. We are fine dps, tanks and etc.

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The sarcasm is strong in the last 3 postā€¦

even bots are better dps than us :c sad but true

And they have no downtime or risk of dying.

Not everyone wants to be a semi-tank when clearly they can be more efficient with their rank of choice. This game wasnā€™t designed like that.

What are you talking about? Every swordman should be a tank! Itā€™s our class. Everyone knows that from the history and fantasy books/film/anime/manga.

Please read this post while imagining his voice:

Jack Sparrow

Pirate? Yes! Swordman? Definetly! Full dps? Clearly notā€¦he was tanking with his face.

Corsair shall do the same.

Inigo Montoya

Duelist? Yes! Swordman? Definetly! Full dps? Clearly notā€¦ he blocked the enemies attack with his sword. Sometimes he used his companion to play as a tank, but heyā€¦ he is a swordman, so he was just definetly being nice to the giant letting him tank sometiems.

Fencer should do the same!

Guts

A savage barbarian with a 2-handed sword? Yes! Swordman? The true black swordman! Full dps? Never! He took countless punches in the face and tanked many enemies on his journey.

Barbarian should do the same!

Ryu Hayabusa

A ninja? Yes! Still a swordman? Of course! Full dps? Going for fast kills and lurking in the shadows? Yes! And what now? Ninja Gaiden was hated among players being too hardā€¦ Why? Cause he was full dps!

Never go full dpsā€¦ Shinobi shouldnā€™t be like that!


*Side note: Even the shinobi quest is telling you that you are not a burst dps avoiding damage and bursting out enemies but a swordman, who should tank mobsā€¦ /sarcasm

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Youā€™re making it sound like WE NEED to pick up Pelta. Why isnā€™t Pelta THE FIRST rank besides Swordsman then? Why was it designed like that? Do you see the point?

But I agree with you. Provoke, in general, should be more than enough. But the point is if you want to be full DPS, even just off-tanking without requirement of having Pelta, should be fine.v

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bloody magic damage

^THIS

well yeah i get that but IMC balances this so we can never be as effective as DPS with as archer or wiz since we have to be up close to attack apart from a few skill exceptions in higher rank circles. Even in bosses we have to dodge while they just pew pew away.

Without the optimal party set-up, If I was the party leader, what do I pick? The one who can oneshot mobs far away or the one that has to run close and one shot a mob? (Just an example, we canā€™t even one shot right now). Think about it.

^^This always must be taken in consideration not to break PVE. Unless you want all along is to be full solo Kirito until end game? Blink striking everything cloud-strife style wink wink

Our debuffs arenā€™t also taken seriously since the game is still pretty early.

But yeah I agree our damage skills should be way stronger right now so that maybe we can generate more threat.

Peltasta is fine as it is if other players wanna spec for pve. Obviously they are far more useful in parties because of my point above.

jan_mudzki, I think I understand your perspective but as you have said towards the later part in your post, itā€™s all about our damage. Weā€™re not on the same page as Wizards or Archers. No, I donā€™t want to JUST be Kirito-solo and show off my steam soloing everything. Iā€™d like to be included in a party because of my DPS. Sure, Iā€™ll off-tank, but can you (in general to the party leaders) take me as DPS? ā€¦ This is where IMC needs to come in and fix Swordsman Ranks. We need some tweaking and adjusting in order to be effective as DPS.

I donā€™t know how IMC is gonna tweak this even if have we have the same DPS output in the future as the other 2 classes, boss hunting aside, we still have to walk close to the monster. Cataphracts maybe are gonna be more welcome if that happens. Other circles, i still wont bother I will still pick archers and wiz over sw. Unless they give us a 0 cd gap closer, but that would be too broken.

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We have the same DPS output as other 2 classes? You mean Wizards and Archers!? ā€¦ We donā€™t. Where are you getting this information from? This whole thread is about how bad DPS Swordsman are ā€¦ This is post level 200+

ā€œIn the futureā€. I have had enough, do you even read? or are you that egocentric that it clouds your brain?. This proves my point in previous posts that people here actually are either stupid or illiterate.

I give up on helping on this thread. If this even reaches you, I am still out.

or am I being baited/trolledā€¦ anyway good luck.

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You could have taken it the other way and point out ā€œin the futureā€ in a positive way. Itā€™s already late at night so yeah I did miss that part. My bad, and calling people names is very low. Really.

Too many people think its perfectly fine playing solo and doing quests as swordsman.

Lawl.

maybe they should just give one of the dps circles of swordsman a warcry or something that provokes but either reduces the swordsmanā€™s defense or reduces attack or something along the way or base some of the skills from ffxivā€™s warrior

no more ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  debuffs ā– ā– ā– ā– . We not some kind of magical debuffer.

You know what the saddest part is?
The C1 Archer skill multishot deals more damage than every skill in the entire swordsman tree.

THIS ladies and gentleman is pure sadness and shows how imbalanced this game is.

Clerics who have heals,heals,heald,safety zone here and there, ridiculous OP immune skills and so on, deal more damage then swordsmen doesā€¦ ouch.

I hope IMC will fix the swordsman class. My lvl 190 Cataphract damage is a joke compared to some level 120 archersā€¦ :frowning:

not true doppel skills in general, and shinobi as well as many others.