Oh I am, iago_I. But everything you’ve said so far is your opinion, and this game is STILL in Beta phases. Are you keeping up with the news?
Also, Pelta is NOT the answer for everything. You clearly have NOT read the thread at all. Because if Pelta is the answer to being past level 200, then I guess all swordies are tanks and will never fulfill DPS roles. Right? Is that what you’re saying?
Take your troll somewhere else.
You have been reported.
yes because other classes one shotting/ cc to hell an entire group of enemies with one ability takes so much effort.
I dont necessary disagree with your other points but there is clearly a huge damage disparity between the classes.
6k hp vs 15khp u say? so what thats the difference between getting killed in one hit vs 2 at high level as if that hp means anything.
Front line? ok so just because of this I should have to rely on other peoples damage to do anything because my job is to babysit the mages and archers? half of them can get through the content with thier own cc and damage. Am I supposed to just sit there and take damage for the party? nah i disagree
clearly if only 1 class makes you useful on pve is bad design itself. and pve should not only revolve around 1 class for swordsmen unlike other trees.
I wonder if there’s any Kirito swordsmen out there only using a one-handed sword and no shield 
but yeah he has a point. there are some unconstructive posts here that imply that they wanna be gods in both pvp and pve
There are constructive posts here. Did you really read the thread?
Guys, read the thread first. It’s all about past level 200 and how useless they are as DPS in both outputting damage and taking damage. Once again, you have a tank, healer and 3 DPS … and Swordies DPS is a joke, so why would you take one (or more) if they can’t out DPS archers and wizards, and they take painful damage and die so quickly?
i did. there are troll posts here and i did say “some”. Most have valid points.
Ignoring the troll posts, do you understand the issue with Swordsman Class? Regardless really, it’s a real fact that Swordsman is pointless to have in a party at the moment.
I back this. Swordsman class is currently seriously underperforming in all neccesarry fields. It is true that swordsman got more hp than other classes but they are unable to kite monsters which make more hp necessary.
im planning to get swordsman dps(?) too when f2p hits
Not all are pointless, just lackluster or underwhelming and needs rework that they don’t get taken seriously in PVE. Read my post above. Clearly peltasta is the most efficient since you can pull mobs very fast and just let the wiz link and the archer dps.
Best party composition right now for grinding is a swordsman with peltasta, any archer tbh, a chrono, a linker and a healer.
In boss fights, c3 highlanders are also very useful.
In pvp, it’s different.
Because they don’t have a taunt? because at c3 their attacking skills are still underpowered compared to other circles at c1? because restraint doesnt stun high level monsters? because they are not useful in end game partys due to lacking useful skills?
Like I previously said, Swordsman is working as intended. nobody needs to advance to swordsman c2/c3 because its not very powerful and they will be lacking better skills from other circles
They have several good and useful attributes, though expensive lots of them are still worth getting
EDIT:
Yup misunderstanding… see replys below
Except he is not only talking about Swordsman c1-c3 in the first place. Yet clearly you are so insistent about sw c1-c3 and less with other circles that you troll him with two replies like this. Kappa
/peace
then he should have titled the thread “Swordsman and other related circles need to be fixed”
i still don’t see a problem with none of the other related circles at all… they need to list everything that needs to be fixed in this topic then
i guess so with that title… it is pretty bad to understand explicitly without TL;DR… for the lazy or stupid and illiterate or old people… or others that don’t read the thread
just kidding
Give Swordman C2 a taunt skill or a massive threat generator skill so we can enjoy endgame party play without having to be a pel c1.
Ok. post a screenshot of your stats window right here in this topic
If you guys think swordsman are weak. they are not… and I bet its your stats distribution or very low crit rate thats making your character weak compared to the other classes
NO it is still bad design. Im guessing you rolled into sw c2 that’ why. sw already have a provoke attribute (which AFAIK applies to all, skills, normal attack included). Peltasta would lose it’s identity as a class if you do this and swash is why you get peltasta.
That’s why other classes need rework so that we can at least generate threat more effectively since it also depends on damage.
I hope you know that shinobi is not working like that. Great thing that you link a beta footage. Shall I make a video of my shinobi and show you that he is fully bugged and 0 dps? 
