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Steady Aim & Skill Modify

Class and Rank Archer
#1

This topic talk about Steady aim & skill modify formula. That I ask someone to prove how it work

From calculate on this topic So how can Musk 2 deal 120k per hit with Covering Fire?

look like Steady AIm work like this.

Snipe lvl 10 Attack: 400% + 9503
+Steady aim 15 Attack: 420% + 9503

Koochaksal lvl 5 Attack:5294
+Steady aim 15 Attack: 20%+5294

It’s good for none Skill Modify type.(Every class except Cannon/Musket)… 100% vs 120%. it’s different.
But almost not help Skill Modify type(Cannon/Musket)…ex 400% vs 420%, 500% vs 520%… even use old steady aim like 500% vs 545% still Not much different.

Too bad I don’t have Musketeer with Ranger. I can’t try it by myself. If someone have Cannon/Musket with Ranger. Can you try pls?

Right now mr.CherryChelly give me a VID for prove about steady aim increase dmg for skill modify type a lot too.

So I need to find out how it work.

#2

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#3

Glass mole is base atk modifier … steady aim skill modifier …

#4

Hi I did the test just for you …

Here’s the link to the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SETDvJqpCuM&feature=youtu.be

The following are the skill levels + attribute used for the test:

  1. Snipe Lvl 5. (400% + 5997)
    Attribute : Level 30 enhance
  2. Steady Aim Lvl 5. (10% Damage)
    Attribute: Level 50 enhance (+100 damage)

RESULTS

#1) Crit + without steady aim = 48746 @0:43
#2) Crit + without steady aim = 48845 @1:26
#3) Crit + with steady aim = 54333 @1:55

Sooo !! Calling out all mathematicians to clarify !!
@thedojin and you too. Hopefully i manage to help :slight_smile:

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#5

thank for your work

//20char

#6

Edit:

Just did the calculation and found out that steady aim is indeed a skill modifier, 49k to 54k is about 10% damage increase (5k ish specifically)

So max steady aim (eventhough nerfed version of 20% in iTos) coupled with strong burst skill like Cannon Blast or Snipe would still have a significant damage increase :smiley:

#7

Yeah look like it’s modifly from final dmg. (maybe can’t use formula in old topic it’s not just a simple like 500% vs 520%)

ok I try use you stats for calculate 798 base atk

old formula snipe lvl5 with crit
base
5997+798=6795
crit = 10192.5

old T1
T1 without steady 101925 =50960 …30atb = 66248
T1 with steady 5 101925.1 =51972 …30atb = 67572

so I think we can’t use old formula. lol

try change formula for T1 to all multiply
T1 without steady 10192*(14) = 40768 …30atb = 52998
T1 with steady 5 10192(141.1) =44844 …30atb = 58298
5300 dmg different. yeah it 10%.
Idk why dmg over from vid 4200-4300 in total. Maybe we need to find different formula

#8

Steady Aim has always been a T1 modifier in the damage formula…

What exactly are you guys trying to prove?

#9

Try to confirm how it work in real game. Maybe IMC change formula but we don’t know. and in old topic we not sure about T1 it’s multiply or plus

#10

You add the respective modifiers together.

i.e:

  • If you are a Dragoon using 2h spear with spear mastery, you have +10%.
  • You use Sepentine for the debuff, +100%
  • Swordies +10% dmg for using 2h spears.

They are all T1 modifiers, so it ends up +120% (100% + 10% + 10%).

  • if we add a T2 modifier like Spear Lunge to the previous (+70% pierce damage)

It becomes +120% * +70%


#11

I alway thought like that since we talk in old topic.
But from vid seem it work in different way.
I try to calculate by use formula from old topic but it not correct.
that why I think about you said in old topic again. maybe it’s none additive.

#12

With @CherryChelly’s video.

P-atk attack: 763 ~ 796
Skill attack: 5997
Skill modifier: 300%
Steady Aim: 10%
Enhance: 30%
Steady Aim bonus: +100

Infrorockter defense: 6

(( 763 ~ 796 ) + 5997 - 6 ) * 1.5 * 4 * 1.2 * 1.3 + 100 = 52,254 ~ 54,362

She did 54,333.

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#13

That good.
but still not correct for none steady aim (around 52000 for that formula)

a problem right now is when she use and not use dmg different around 5400. That why a bit confuse if just additive in T1. maybe skill modify (in info) are not in T1 but in T0?

#14

The infrorockter’s defense is too little that the skill modifier being T0 means nothing. Because she didn’t do a test without a crit (or rather, a monster with high defense), we can’t say it’s T0 or T1.

However, I do agree that her damage without steady aim is weird. If we reversed her damage, then her p-atk needs to be around 200~300 which makes sense if we took off her weapon damage.

The difference between her actual damage and the formulated one is 8%.

#15

Gotcha, i’ll try doing another test with a higher monster defense after the maintenance !

#16

Maybe IMC change something about Base skill modify/Steady Aim/Formula. But we don’t know lol.
We will confuse more from Patch R8 because we will have butt stroke attribute lol.

#17

I doubt it, but all we really can do is do more tests.

I’m sure @EternalDream can shed more light into this. it’s only an 8% difference after all.

#18

It should still be in the same spot in the formula as always, but it turns out the tooltip’s just wrong, since kToS got this patch today:

" - Steady Aim
- Fixed issue where the skill effect was actually different than what was specified in the tool-tip."

So yeah…no idea how much it is for real in iToS atm, I’d have to double check.

#19

Ahh, okay. That’s a little weird.

#20

well really can’t use old one right now
even

(( 763 ~ 796 ) + 5997 - 6 ) * 1.5 * 4.1 * 1.3 + 100 = 54,098 ~ 54,362 <<this one

missing +100% for default of T1 (1+4+0.1) same as covering fire (1+1.5+0.1)