I kinda agree with this, on top of that 50% discount makes it very cheap.
Back on topic, GM has a point for the untradeables. Yep, they are designed to be built in the char.
I am not affected by this issue. But GMs, come on. That is below the belt. You guys should have stated that before you did the patch and not after.
nerf on the trans mechanic i mean 'w’y
though i am confused on the calculations you provided ‘w’;
Nice explanation. But Event Item owners will still be penalized with 50% of total Gems.
My situation to illustrate: I was using the event weapon cause it was easier to obtain, while I was working on my desirable item. I was planning on removing the gems from that event weapon to use them on my new one.
Then they announced the patch and I decided to wait, as I could have 100% gems back instead of 90%. Now I will end up with 50% only, cause the other half will be in my weapon, with no options to remove. If I knew before my event weapon would be treated different, I would rather keep 90%, because it would suits my purpose better.
So I had been caught now not receiving 50% of my gems back as it looks, but actually loosing half of them without previous warning.
Do you mean just the upgrade %?.. Then yes, its a ‘nerf’. But you can’t just look at the strength values only.
You have to look at it with the cost of upgrading (If you don’t spend the costs, you don’t get the upgrade).
150% (power) x 50% (cost) = 3
200% (power) x 100% (cost) = 2
3 > 2
Its an overall increase in the amount of strength you can get for cost. Its a buff to -everyone- (Cheaper for both newbies -and- trans10 players).
Sorry, i’m a little pedantic about getting these comparisons right, as to prevent any misunderstanding when theorycrafting etc.
Edit: @fabricio_polo Yes, the 50% refund instead of the full amount is definitely regrettable. Agreed with you on that.
Not only that but they had no information at all about those in the previous announcement.
That’s definitely unfair and it should be handled like all others’ weapons.
As what they have said about 50% discount from the event, those affected users should get the blessed gems back as follows:
[amount required before the changes] - [amount required after the changes] + [half amount required after the changes for stage 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10]
This very much. Anything else is ■■■■
Look like we got imc’d again 
its too trouble to fix this bug/error so they lets player take the damage instead
Look, it’s not just event items that didn’t got the ttanscend back, it’s also all the DLC untradable itens to, some people just arrive at the game, buy the DLC, transcend that item, and now this, he pays to get trolled with a 50% refund instead of 100% cause of a dificulty in treat a item as any other item in the game with transcend.
So, they mess again and not going to do anything… imc things like bots and bugs
I understood everything you said, however, as you know and said, the IMC was wrong not to warn before Patch.
I understand that the Untradable equipment was not meant to be tradable, however, the Patch also changed the value of transcendence, from 200% to 100%, so it is no longer as interesting to transcend as before and not so necessary.
Thus, Untradable items with transcendence are also affected.
If ultimately IMC did not want to include these event items in the Patch package she’d have warned this before so we could destroy the items at the blacksmith and receive 90% of the used blesseds.
When I transcended my event items I was sure, by the rules of the game, that I would be able to recover 90% of the blesseds used.
At least IMC has to give back 90% of the blesseds we use and not 50%, I do not want crumbs, I want what I got right. If the IMC had announced the truth, it would refund 50% of the blessing of the event items I would have run on Monday before the upgrade and would have broken my item at the blacksmith and picked up 90% of the blessings.
I have 4 Untradable event items with transcendence.
2 Emengard Shield (stage 5) - 22 Blessed Gems (2x)
1 Heart of Glory (stage 5) - 48 Blessed Gems
1 Regard Horn Staff (stage 10) - 343 Blessed Gems
A total of 435 Blessed Gems that the IMC announced would return me, I made plans with these gems.
If the IMC returned me 50% would be 218 Blessed Gems.
If I removed the Blesseds from the smith and would receive 90% of the 435 Gems = 3920 blessed shards = 392 Blessed Gems.
Receiving 50%, I would lose 174 Blessed Gems.
At the current market price Blessed Gem is costing 1.4M silver, so I would have a loss of almost 250 million silver.
Is this because of an IMC error? There is no justice in this.
I am pretty sure they aren’t giving 100% because anyone who transcends these now will end up with the old amount used. I don’t think they can tell if the item was transcended before or after the patch.
So it would mean people could abuse this to make more gems by spending less gems on them now.
They have logs. They can just apply it to everyone who had them before the patch.
That’s no excuse, the situation is definitely unfair.
Just look at guilhermepfvf’s post: 250 million lost and it’s not his fault.
Even if it could be abused, this is an easy solution:
You guys have a week to change your decision. You applied a great patch but you cannot decide the amount of gems is worth a player’s time and investment.
People spent weeks/months farming Saalus, hoping they would get all their gems back with this patch. There’s literally no excuses to not give back all the gems, IT’S THEIR GEMS YOU CANNOT DECIDE FOR THEMSELFS.
You’re hurting both casual and hardcore players on here. Driving players away because of your decision.
If I understand the new/revised explanation of what is happening about this “situation”, then on the June/5th maintenance we are getting 100% of our gems back; the only gems we won’t receive are the ones we have used to upgrade the transcendence stage on the listed items, post the maintenance on May/29th. I’m fine with waiting a week to receive a large chunk of my gems. It’s keeping me from transcending the wrong items and what not, so… Thanks IMC for helping me with my impulse to transcend everything. 
The players will pay for the IMC’s mistake? I transcended my event weapon just before the maintance counting with the information publicized. Not my fault.
I rly don’t understand why IMC “buy” so much hate for free… Just do what you publicized before the maintance, don’t change the rules now, will cost you nothing.
OK, this is advanced stupidity. Can you explain more clearly why an [event] weapon doesn’t guarantee the normal treatment of refund of gems? It’s not very clear in your statement.
Considering IMC’s lame excuse that Event and Untradable items are not supposed reset in the trans patch renewal.
1- Does Event and Untradable item exist in kToS (korean server)? (I guess yes)
2- Were these items EXCLUDED from reset when trans patch was released there?
Here is proof:
Patch notes:
You can’t possibly mean that you didn’t anticipate this after kTest and kTOS both already had this update ~2 months ahead.
