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Speed abusing or hacking

The hell you on about? You didn’t even answer my question.

What delusional impression? You clearly stated that they told you they were bugged out and you believed because how much of a good person you are. Please do clarify and enlighten my delusional impression of your first comment.

Time to teach IMC how to catch hacker/exploiter :haha: well maybe with 2 years of experience handing TOS may make them more competent to handle such case.

this is just my assumption… after silver hack incident IMC might hire some experts in that area… lol

and you seem to share the same understanding as squirebot1 Owo

looks like someone likes to jump into conclusions owO

aside from adding statements that aren’t presented by the source Owo;;

derailing furthermore than it should well time to give up … :tired:

the only derailment here are you and squirebot having a hard time understanding what i said, and the inability to go how the conversation flowed by bringing up your aggression towards me from an obscured impression

at least whitedwarf and OP was able to go past that Owo/

so what is your statement and why you said in your last post … care to defend??? dont like drama queen here … it u have to say some fancy word with no facts … i think i will let go about it … i hope other readers would understand it

the first statements are facts on how the linhs explained themselves regarding the issue

no one mentioned of believing or disbelieving these statements

which then steered to the matter that staff can easily confirm it themselves yet let this issue go on for years

an acceptable response is that OP provided an object detector addon, which may further add evidence to make an investigation possible

though with the issue being reported for numerous times by numerous people, i think it should also been an indication that something should be investigated and shouldn’t have gone for 2 years

good now we can discuss… thx for clearing the statement u made in the last post… so now you are stressing on the issue of the incompetency of IMC last 2 years… well regarding this matter i cant say anything as im not working in that company… :haha: it can be anything but that just an assumption … no clue either

Whatever cheater sympathizer maybe next time be more clear. IMC was incompetent 2 years ago end of story. They improved and banned abusers that’s it. We are all winners here no more inflated market prices and boss hunting is became fun again. (Though certain guilds are trying to monopolize it.)

i tend not to be short-sighted at the best of my abilities Owo

“Thought certain guild are trying to monopoly”

At least it is fair farming now, open to all normal player thanks to bob, before this we all don’t even have chance to see the boss unless it spawn at our spot - -…

Got it from a source… :joy::joy::joy::joy:

Why everyone who got caught cheating and banned suddenly say bored with game and they earned enough and that they lost interest already? :joy::joy:

Hi @gacon_12494 @who_luv_sim pls make a speech here too!!

i am curious on what drove them to do this, the people linh mentioned, i wonder what’s the story behind that Owo?

It’s probably a coping mechanism to make themselves feel better.

You don’t need to think too deep, these people simply have the mindset of cheaters and exploiters. They tried to cheat in a fanart contest, they’ve been cheating all this time with that speed exploit, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they did every single publicly known exploit during events or what not, as well as a few more that only they would know just to “win” or whatever makes them feel good about themselves.

Heck that Linh Don guy runs social media bots or something for a living so he’s beyond concepts such as dignity and integrity.

Personally, at least I’m satisfied that he didn’t get his way with the fanart contest although at the time their little stint was just a side issue from the bigger issue which was tracing art and plagiarism. It was just unfortunate that there was a server merge and us Varenians had to deal with bigger exploiters than before.

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maybe, though i was kind of thinking it may be a factor why this went on for years

someone as well-known to do such things, as you say, couldn’t possibly be ignored for such a long time

considering numerous reports

i find that to be quite peculiar

That was just how IMC was

:man_shrugging:

Every report thread ended with the same line:

" we need a new video/evidence" or
" we have warned the players not to use it, if you catch them doing so, feel free to submit a new video and report again"


The reason it was dragged this long was because all the staff ceased any form of investigation until a “fresh” video is submitted

Those reports probably never left the ticket support loop. As seen in this case and also the fanart case I keep mentioning, the problem is solved the moment it reaches someone who has the capability and power to deal with the issue (Bob for this case, and Letitia or Amy for the fanart one).

On that note it’s not just the quality of the ticket and forum staff that needs work, the players submitting tickets also need to work on clarity and efficiency (not relying on flooding with tickets basically) in submitting stuff like this.

nuli*** ban scenario doesn’t seem to need that kind of requirements for a thorough investigation if you ask me owO;;

and with the common elements found from the reports, it’s easy to find where they’ll make an appearance for an in game investigation

and just as @Ersakoz indicated, the investigation conditions seem to fluctuate when it comes to reaction-time and effort

what i was trying to convey is that these varying reaction from the investigation team needs to be standardized, else it will bring up stuff in the long run

things like

  1. players would believe the linhs are telling the truth due to them not being punished for such a long time.

thanks to people who misunderstood me and branded me as a supporter, real supporters have been asking me about whether if it’s true or not. imagine how devastated those players sound like after telling them that the linhs have betrayed their trust all this time and is now conflicted between being happy for getting rid of a cheater and being sad that they’ve lost someone they trust (it may sound ideal that people would accept the truth and move on, but that is not the case for them, factors like how long they were made to believe their story plays a major part in their struggle)

  1. now, that they are proven guilty, the elapsed time they are left alone create questions within the community. not everyone is in this culture of forgetfulness where everyone will be satisfied the moment they get a favorable result from a local scenario, and not consider details that will affect the big picture

sure i would understand imc is understaffed, but considering it is a major exploit (even bob thinks that it greatly affect the economy) that ran for that long seems a little way out of that scope for that excuse

1- So in your eyes criminal can be punish with simple evidence?
Guess u never gone to a court and see a criminal trial. Most of the cases were dismissed due to lack of evidence , without solid proof u cant simply punish a player.
And what happen is you wrongfully punish a player? it affect company’s reputation and the said staff that punish the player will lose his job.

2- Regarding the service rendered/ the delay or whatever it is… i just simply look it as an incompetency of a company nothing more…

3- i have no idea if IMC are understaffed on not … but i haven’t heard anything that the IMC said they are sorry for not be able to entertain my ticket. they still reply it even it is a pre-made text as it is a step they have to take.

4- There is no excuse given by IMC … only incompetency of a company in the eyes of players.