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So that's how it will be? [ToS is the KS heaven.]

Yeah KSing is a very serious problem, personally I’ve only had it been an issue one or two times but it’s very noticeable when doing quests that ask you to kill certain monsters or grinding a certain material, it’s only going to get worse probably as I’m playing a Krivis right now and we have that debuff that makes enemies blue and I’m pretty sure you all know how that ends.

My other character is a Barbarian and I’ve only ‘‘KSd’’ when I can tell they are going to kill the other dude, I mean, a Priest won’t have an easy time with against eight mobs when he has 10% of his HP left and I saw him use his Heals so I know they are on cooldown.

How to solve the KS issue: whilst in ‘solo mode’ (means, when ure not in a party), if one hits a mob, it gets ‘marked’ by the system, in favor to the person who first hit it. If someone else come by and kill the ‘marked’ mob, the EXP goes to the person who first hit the mob, and the KSer gets ZERO EXP, no matter what. Obviously, tis ignored when in party, since theres options to share EXP, etc.

I accidentally KS as a lowbie but that doesn’t really matter. Accidents happen but if they are done deliberately I feel bad for all us newbies in the long run. I would like to recommend a system where in if you KS a monster that someone else was fighting and you are not in the same party, that person becomes a zombie for 1 minute. :grinning:

Yeah,but doesn’t that make a new problem with people running around the map,one hitting monsters just to have others kill them and get them their EXP? Sounds like it could become the same kind of problem.

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Solution: More channels (at least 4 come on.)

If you see a jerk KSing you all the time, just move to another channel. If he follows you and you can prove it’s malicious in nature, call the GMs

ps. Hire more GMs

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I wish I would have recorded the 2 different people who did stalk and KS me because I called them out for it.But its a beta,so there’s little point at the same time.

I assumed the community being mostly RO fans meant the average age of the community was 20+,but the amount of KSing shows me otherwise…it’s ridiculous.

Were also running with the issue of fewer channels at high level zones. If each map had like at least 10 channels, I believe that method wouldnt be a problem.

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:innocent: Please Hire me. I’m quitting my job this January.

The problem is finding the balance between the necessary number of channels and what number becomes abuseable for farming. I doubt people haven’t caught onto this trick, but due to the low number of certain monsters in some of the low level areas, you can just switch channels and run through and find that monster very frequently. For example, Crystal Mines B3F has 20 channels, making farming for Vubbe Fighter Blood very easy. 20 Channels is clearly way too much, and it makes me frustrated walking into a map only using one channel when its extras could be going to places such as Constructor Chapel, Demon Prison 2, Forest of Prayer, Legwyn Residence etc.

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Now that I think about it, it would be really nice to see more Boss drops in the market. (/cough ZIRCONS /cough)

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Enough games use channels for people to know this. Literally as soon as i decided to grind a bit this was my first course of action.

And it happened again… :weary:

Well, at least this time they didn’t appeal to duel requests. Just jokes about me being Brazilian.

So, @GM_Erick & @GM_Fuji. What do you think about this topic?

Harassment by purposeful KSing through bigoted racism. Trump has a bigger influence than I thought.

There were suggestions on how to fix this KS issue. One is, having a setting whether you can have your target get killed by another player or not. For me, I think of this one: A first hit, first serve that you still get 90% of the exp and the loot as long as you hit the target first and you get the aggro (which only can be taken away by another team member. You lose the aggro and first hit basis if you run away from the target for x seconds). This doesn’t apply to field bosses. Well, that’s what I can think of anyway.

My only concern about adding more channels is that the game will feel more like a single player game… that’s not the point of MMOs. Sure you might be playing with friends, but because of more channels = people divided on all of them. Areas will be empty and to me that’s not very appealing. It really takes away that MMO experience in my opinion.

A solution I can think of is just to simply add more monsters or make their spawning a lot faster, also if you hit a monster it is yours only and others can damage it but you get the exp/loot as long as you don’t stop agro for a while. I guess having up to 2 channels (3 is ok too… depending on the player traffic, if it is high or low) would be enough.

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that simply can be fix by adding some kind of match making feature like what DOTA2 has already have… instead of calling it match making it would be party making.

you need to play dungeon… browse party making feature find your dungeon on the list, the system will match it or you can just find it manually and tada… you have party. now go and meet them…

the current party system is ok adding another feature for much more convenient will be much appreciated… instead of doing some shoutout that you need party yada yada…

I have never seen any counter measurement against KS in a public map before.
More channels is not a solution, players will just swim through the channels and grind wherever is highly populated with mobs and swim again… And sounds more like a single player game.

So far, I’ve never really got KS’d seriously before, well they just couldn’t, I’m a Sorcerer, with a party.
Yup, get a party if possible, that’s the most approachable solution in any game with such genre so far.

The only counter measure i have seen is the first person who hits the mob gets it but then that just changes the issue from ksing to tagging so no matter what you do its a ■■■■ show.

Eh plenty of modern mmo have created solutions to this problem by sharing the experience of the monster killed between the players even though they are not in a party. Gw2 rift and so on. Why can’t this be a feature in this mmo. So in will actually get excited when I see other players. Not cringe and hope they go away. I’m looking at you barbs.

I still cringe that they are taking a % of my xp.