I found Troubadour today. Silute Server
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Anyone knows how to obtain this toy (assuming its even obtainable)? https://tos.neet.tv/items/630017
I want to try to use it on the boulder.
Hm. Dunno. I haven’t seen it in game anywhere.
I can see though that it’s a Toy type with a description exactly like Shovel (obtained for Medals) so perhaps it was replaced.
Unrelated to our owl hunt, but I found this while looking for a item in Sunset Flag Forest, it’s similar to the grave effect in Karolis, didn’t know this was here
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I found it at where the red box is, the other circles are related to the trigger HiddenTrigger6
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seems to be common on some maps to leave a story bh…
Like on mage tower, there is a telescope you can only use after completing all quest and it details events that happened…
or the dead pilgrim wife on pilgrim path and later on A. Crossroad… where the question of what she truly wanted is left in the air…
and things like that…
I feel like they left lot of stuff open to ad later, jist like how all the maps had obvious roads that were added or will be added later on…
i’m currently investigating the jars in Fedimian, a couple of them give generic messages like “it might break if you hold it”, gonna see if checking them enough times reveals a secret similar to the dirt pile in Taniel
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I was going through the txt files and found this in the lv200 file
QUEST_LV_0200_20150317_002040 The merchant is not satisfied for losing all of his luggage. Do you think you will be saved if you find all of his luggage? 상인은 자신의 짐 꾸러미들을 잃어버린게 큰 불만인 것 같습니
다. 상인의 짐 꾸러미를 모두 찾아 주면 구원받을 수 있을까요?
QUEST_LV_0200_20150317_002041 After you found all the luggage, the spirit of the merchant with many regrets seems to be satisfied now. 짐 꾸러미를 전부 찾아 주자 미련많은 상인의 영혼은 이제서야 만족한 것 같습니다.
It’s with the lv200 quests, but these are actually inbetween a bunch of Katyn Forest and other Forest map quests
this is weird too
“QUEST_LV_0200_20150317_001985 You should cross here to look for the sculptor of Kateen Forest which the revelation of the goddess is indicating, but the man with unnormal clothes is investigating something diligently. Talk to him what’s going on.”
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I’ve been busy IRL lately so I haven’t been investigating much.
That spot in Sunset Flag Forest looks interesting. Nice find!
I checked on tos.neet and it turns out that there are 3 spots like this, each dedicated to a different soldier. Nothing seemed to happen when I triggered them though.
There’s also another hidden trigger right next to Alan’s spot. Dunno if it’s related.
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yeah it’s basically just a finished quest thing like the graves in karolis i think, it shoots particles out like them
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Lately I’ve been looking into possible secret NPCs in other locations using tos.neet.tv.
I’ve got no reliable results there so far, other than learning about a few known secrets that way.
(Interestingly though, I was able to “discover” known secrets I didn’t know about by finding their hidden NPCs on tos.guru and camping. It might be a good research method.)
One thing I learned about lately has got me thinking.
Hidden quest in Galeed Plateau reminds me of Sensitive Owl.
It’s started from an NPC that spawns every 4 hours for 5 minutes.
During these 5 minutes you’re supposed to complete a quest by picking up nearby stones.
Until now I thought that 5 minutes after 4 hours of camping is too short to do anything specific. I was rather expecting a condition trigger elsewhere.
Pillar in Galeed Plateau has made me realise that devs might’ve indeed expected us to do something within those short 5 minutes (or less if you’re not camping attentively).
I think that perhaps we should try to camp Sensitive Owl more often and try to experiment in Saknis Plains while it’s there.
Also, new troubadour spawn point:
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one thing you can try using the radar addon tpminimap to look for invisible/unspawned entities
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another thought, there’s a similar gimmick in ruklys hall of fame where a ruklys captain will spawn every day at like 7pm or 8pm and you have to collect his ghost followers to bring to him
perhaps stuff spawns on the map you have to bring to the owl in a similar fashion
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Sensitive Owl already has it’s own spawning schedule.
Having another timer tied to this secret would be too much I think… Right?..
The radar addon sounds interesting. I’ll be sure to check it out! Thanks!
Today I was able to find players willing to party up to complete Saknis Plains’ stone pillar gimmick.
It took us ~2-3 hours in full party, endlessly hunting Puragis.
We’ve been there so long we even created our own cult, worshipping the stone pillar. I probably would’ve gone even more insane doing this if not for the amusing company.
After all the effort we were finally able to activate it:
As expected, it gives nothing but a useless buff for 8 minutes. “Unrewarding” doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Take note of the word “Slightly”. They even admit how useless it is!
Ah well, at least that’s one thing off the list of things to check.
I’m starting to suspect a theory that these gimmicks were made to help players discover other secrets nearby.
I noticed that many maps with timed secrets have a gimmick or provide items that are required for a gimmick. Perhaps it would be worth it to consider looking into gimmicks from that perspective.
At the least, I can’t think of any other reasonable explanation for why these gimmicks are there, how unbearable they are and what rewards they offer.
Downfall of a deity
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“unrewarding” should be carved on almost all gimmick stones xD
or have a sign that says [not worth it] 
Well I wouldn’t say all gimmicks are bad.
Some are even fun as a short break or when you’re farming for something anyway.
The bad ones are those that have completely useless rewards (like a buff in a map where you absolutely don’t need it) or those that are unbalanced in terms of effort and reward.
Saknis Plains stone goes into both of these categories.
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Seen Troubadour today at 10:42am server time. He disappeared soon after so he probably been there for a while already. He stood at the bottom of the tall cliff in southern part.
Odd thing is I’ve been roaming the map every ~30 minutes and didn’t see him on the previous run… Possibly I took longer that time though. Not sure…
I came to the map around 7:30 am. I’ve found him ~3 hours later so possibly he spawned after 2 hours.
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Today I tried searching for Wandering Merchant while Wandering Bard was still spawned after I talked to him. Not a trace.
Wandering Bard spawned after ~2.5 hours after I entered the channel btw.
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i’ll check it out tomorrow and see if he spawns after 2 hrs
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I’ve spent some time browsing tos.neet lately.
I noticed that many timed hidden NPCs are marked there with “Tactics” meta. This includes Troubadour, Sensitive Owl, Wandering Merchant and many other hidden NPCs of known secrets.
I compiled a list of marked interactions that I found most suspicious:
Inner Enceinte District - Hiddennpc - Tactics CHAR120_MSTEP5_4_FLOWER
Akmens Ridge - Hiddennpc - Tactics CHAR120_MSTEP5_5_FLOWER
Cranto Coast - Hiddennpc - Tactics CHAR120_MSTEP5_5_FLOWER2
Klaipeda - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics KLAIPE_CHAR313_MSTEP3_1
Gytis Settlement Area - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics SIAUL_CHAR313_MSTEP8_2
Goddess’ Ancient Garden - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics REMAINS_CHAR313_MSTEP8_3
Salvia Forest - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics HIDDEN_CHAR318_MSETP3_1
Shaton Reservoir - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics CHAR318_MSETP3_1_CTROBJ1
Nefritas Cliff - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics HIDDEN_CHAR318_MSETP3_2
Grynas Trails - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics CHAR318_MSETP3_3_STONE
Sekta Forest - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics HIDDEN_CHAR318_MSETP3_3
Barha Forest - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics ORCHARD_34_3_SQ_13_TACTICS
Extension - HiddenTrigger6 - Tactics UNDER302_EVENT1_MON
Yudejan Forest - Orb of Fate - Tactics WTREES_21_1_SQ_2_TAC
These interactions are probably not related to Kateen forest, but you never know. They might be worth looking into.
Please write if anyone recognises these to be involved in known quests of gimmicks.
I tried to camp a few of these already but so far no results.
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