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Schwarzer Reiter vs Rank 7 classes

Class and Rank Archer
#121

I’m A2 > QS3 … tipical running shooter about to get to rank 6. have manamana, Grand cross, loving the damage so far…

Then i was going to be SR 2, but with the future nerf of retreat shot i’m scared. O.O

For rank 6 I can be:
1- Archer 3 - better Swift step/Kneelig shot/Multi shot and Twin Arrows.
2 - Falconer - Circling skill and the cool hawk/pet, can help the Aoe i lack.
3 - S reiter - Pet/Mount for better movement speed and Hp, retreat shot (OP till gets nerf).

What to pick, is the million dollar question …

#122

Hard choice for me SR2 or Fal-Can maybe go to Fal2 for fun.

#123

Well, before there weren’t many wugushis. But as of late there’s been a shift and I have been seeing an influx of wugushis when I was leveling mines especially those who’re reaching R7. Effectiveness when it comes to boss hunting really depends on your server. Overpopulated servers like SA/SEA will most likely have a lot of wugushis. But the lesser ones you have less chance of coming across them and even if you do as long as you time your poisons after theirs to overwrite it you’ll be fine or if you have a chrono to pass you to overwrite theirs.

MrFioz answered this one. Manticen gives it a crossfire animation that which extends far enough to aggro monsters to make them run into the throw gu pot’s poison pool. Canceril on the otherhand give’s it a water like explosion. Both are lackluster in damage but good for mob pulling. As for leveling, I’ve yet to test it myself but from the wugushi forum the levels doesn’t change anything.

Stat wise, this is all dependent on how much you’ll invest/finance your class. If you’re like me who has 2x sissel + max petamion + manamana, you have a lot of leeway with putting more points into STR. (I went pure STR - 31con cause I’m planning to get even more crit rate from gears/gems and I don’t want to reset) However if you don’t think you can fund at that level and high level gems I’d suggest investing more points into DEX. I personally don’t like ratios but if I was to do one I’d go 3 STR: 1 DEX. That’s because you’re still an AA build with wugu’s DoT that you’ll want to still go high STR in the end and not compromise your damage just for two cannoneer skills.

#125

Makes sense, I think I’m dead set on Wu2 + cannon now, thank you for all the great advice :slight_smile: I’m on Klapedia, so I’ll take my chances lol

And gear wise, you listed a lot so I have an idea of what I should be shooting for. Since I went QS3, does that mean I should still stick with grand cross/didel and not worry about other weapons or is there something better to aim for? Also, why sissel? I’m still sort of new to the game and can’t figure out if sissel or gladiator is better. At this point, I thought trying to get glad would be beneficial because I’m itching for some AoE lol

#126

Didel/Grand Cross will be BiS with Manamana. And if you can’t afford manamana yet, a superior kracked shooter + arde dagger will be next weapon sets due to the poison scaling at a 1:1 ratio - physical attack:poison damage ticks.

For flying mobs however, you can go with a superior wreech bow or a viper. That’s because the 100% damage on flying mob from archer’s 2handed bow mastery affects poison DoT’s too effectively doubling it.

Why I went sissel is a personal preference. Because at the end of the day I’ll still be using AA’s and using some cannoneer skills and being a pure STR i’ll need crit rate sources to compensate for no A2’s swift step. You can however go Gladiator Bands due to no circling and Cannoneer’s Cannon Shot and Cannon Blast having 8 AoE and 10 AoE attack ratio respectively.

#127

PSA: SR skills are affected by lethargy strike debuff. Skill damage gets effectively doubled damage unlike broom trap and the double lines.

#128

Well that’s just silly,nice catch. I bet decay would be amazing as well.

#129

How exactly does the slow-walk retreat shot mechanic work?

#130

PSA: 220 SR here.

After switching from mouse to controller the retreat shot cancel bug has dramatically decreased. If might happen less then 1% now and it’s probably just human error.

#131

Do retreat shot normally, hold down auto attack key or click on nearby monsters

#132

I have to agree with this. Even in hectic Situation’s and still learning how to use retreat shot, using a controller the skill hasn’t cancel on its own but only by human error. Was in a 190 dun the other day and had 3 SR in it and they were telling me how theirs was canceling often whereas mine was not.

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#133

Looks like SR2 is the new meta for ET, rev up thosebuilds

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#134

afaik, SR2 already being used in KTOS so its already a meta in ET. specially no RS cancel/nerfs in iTOS making it STILL reliable that it can be in ET.

#135

I see…

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#136

can some1 tell me what the pros and cons of R3 and QS 3 are in an sr build

#137

R3 in kToS gives 45% dmg for 15 seconds. Thats why R3 is good there.

#138

Kr have been using SR for a long time already so they came up with the 100%uptime setup because they saw the potential. Cool story Korean bros.

To avoid going on a MAJOR RANT on why I think this is all stupid I’ll avoid that and just say.

Good job on building the team.

Good job on completing floor 20 (even tho we can’t get past floor 6 Lel)

Good luck replicating that.

#139

The reason is because RS becomes 100% up time, ticking 8k - 12k DPS on 10mobs (maybe 2-3 hits in 1 second).

So yeah, well done Koreans.

and good luck for those who will copy their class :smiley:

#140

Well I decided to bite the dust and make an A2 QS3 SR1, and I have to say the play style of these two builds is absolutely fantastic dungeons and field farming.

#141

Im between these 3 builds :

A2 QS3 SR2

A3 Wugu2 Falco1 Cannon

A2 Sap2 Wugu2 Cannon