what level is your retreat shot?
SR is only good at C2+ā¦
Level 10. Me and my friend were testing cuz we both made SR2. Itās good damage but it still feels so lacking if you compare a wugushi c2/c3 damage or a cannoneer damage. Single target, it still preety good but itās just not ideal. Gear wise, cafrisun set is really amazing on your Q3, but if you wanna use running shot effectively, you gotta get in a wall and mobs/boss can wreck you if you donāt have plate set and mastery. Itās really up to you really.
Sounds like a clunky skill. Thatās pretty sad.
You can still utilize emote + running + retreat shot for now so you wonāt have that trouble with taking damage nor needing a wall.
Itās going to get nerfed sadly 
Thatās a mechanic that wasnāt intended nor the retreat shot + running shot combo but weāll see how it goes. Iām not gonna invest on it for now til we start seeing their stance on the class changes.
Yes it uses a dagger and has strike but thatās not the point.
The point is that it is a mounted class, witch means anything you pick before that HAS TO BE COMPATIBLE. Cannon wagushi circle2 musketeer rogue falconer scout sapper are all useless if you want to stay mounted and make the most out of the class. But on the flip side having SR 2 means you can use the SR skills while mounted witch is a plus. If it ends up being just that then oh well. Itās called taking a risk.
I hate to be a sheep and all but I tried telling people the same thing with wagushi1 and Fletcher 1 but it really isnāt worth it. Qs into wugu2 is really REALLY good and Iād hate for you to gimp yourself of throw the pot. Fletcher I canāt say Iām inclined to no? But there isnāt Anything wrong with that. That being said I actually donāt mind wugushi2 into SR 2 having to dismount for throw you pot is worth it , or leveling up the other skills to max can be something of a boon as well. But wagushi 2 or none at all imo.
A3Wu2SR2 new Schwarzer Reiter meta!
I mean I donāt really see a problem with itā¦right? Also update Iāve pretty much. Gotten walking retreat shot down as well as running with retreat.
Iām really REALLY going to miss walking retreat shot, it has so many practical uses. I really wish they just had an attribute where you walk with retreat shot instead of run. Would fix so many problems.
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Iām with you on that one. We should really petition for an attribute to slow down the movement speed to make Retreat Shot practical if and when it gets changed.
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Did retreat shot skill make you auto run back ? Can we just stop moving and shot at back ?
It only shoots when youāre moving
So I just got my handgun(+1 lvl to SR skillz), and max retreatā¦the chip damage is real. Bosses melt when I do it right and it feels so good to be able to mob slightly. Questing on this thing is amazing as its just seemless running around.
Having QS for pavaise has also been usefull in missions and such, as well as caltrops. Laimacon and caracoll seems ā¦meh. Concentrated fire on the other hand is the real deal tho. The hunt for manamana begins boys.
There seems to be a lot of good information in this thread so I kind of wanted to follow up with a few questions.
I was originally planning on going QS3->A2->SR2. This thread is making me worry a bit and SR seems like a lot of trouble in terms of landing retreat shot. Is it worth trying to master retreat shot or is it easier to achieve similar/better results as other classes?
Right now Iām kind of interested in going QS3-Wu2-Cannon or QS3->A2->Falc->Cannon. Would one route be more beneficial than the other? Iām more interested in PvE and boss hunting than anything (Iām not really intested in the fletcher route). Also, as far as Wu goes, can anyone tell me which skills I would focus on maxing?
Am I right in thinking that falc -> cannon would be more useful for group play and that wu2->cannon would be more powerful for boss hunting?
Also, if anyone can suggest some stat distributions thatād be awesome. I only put 5 in con and 10 in dex and pumped str for now.
Wugushi for boss hunting is very risky since if there are another wugushi you will override eachother poison and begin a silent war between eachother,if there isnāt any other wugushi on the other hand it should be pretty good
Gotchya, makes sense. Any thoughts on falc/cannon vs. SR? As far as PvE goes does one have a distinct advantage over the other? Iām just a bit nervous about Falc because while I hear circling is awesome, it seems a little wasteful to spend a whole circle for one skill. Also, I heard that you need to recall your hawk after each use which seems kind of annoying as well.
If you do take up wugushi, youāll max needle blow, wugongu, throw gu pot and dump the rest of the points into zhendu.
Thanks, will keep that in mind. This might be a loaded question, but do you know how common Wuās are? More and more going QS3->wu2->cannon seems like a cool idea, I just donāt know how often I can expect to run into others who will cancel out my poison (I do want to be effective at boss hunting and it would suck to lose a big chunk of damage due to an overpopulated class, though at the same time, this sounds like a bug that I hope IMC will fix eventually).
Also, since you seem to know your Wugushi, I believe I remember hearing they are a class that also uses boss cards. Are any worth keeping and leveling if I do go down that road or is whatever skill that uses the boss cards a Circle 3 thing?
Oh and one final question, if I can, what would you recommend stat wise for QS3->wu2->cannon?
Thanks again for all the advice!
wugushi can only use 2 boss cards: manticen and canceril, you get them from world boss i think
Reading through this post is pretty disheartening for me.
Iām about to go Rank 5 on my Str QS3 and I did not want to pick Wugushi or a Rank 7 Circle so the most logical thing left for me was SR2 but reading about that whole nerf/fix thing makes me reconsider.
Guess itās back to the drawing board. Maybe stomp QS3 alltogether if there is no other option.
(Probably gonna make a separate thread if the available resources arenāt enough)
On another note: are there any other good SR2 builds besides QS3 and R3?