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Schwarzer Reiter vs Rank 7 classes

what if you have a linker2 and a cataphract 3 in your party and you link his trot. will you shoot like 80 shots with retreatshot?

Trot can be shared with spiritual chain? I haven’t keep up with the spiritual chain changes. But if so then I still doubt it’ll hit 80 times though. Maybe close to it with haste.

Here’s the updated Emote Running Shot + Retreat Shot. Sorry for my noobness missing Rapid Fire at point blank. Tenet Garden is also lagging again so slow autos.

Thank you so much for your time and effort in helping me better understand what I am trying to figure out. Sadly I enjoy my AA build and given the circumstances, SR will not be an option for me. Off to the AA thread for me lol

Look into what you like and go for it, Im building this SR for hackapekk because I think it will be a hidden class requiring SR as a pre req. or in the very least, the available attacks on a mount are so few and far between that not utilizing a skill path that allows you to stay mounted is a folly.

@Punkd thank you so much for sharing, also I didn’t know about the spiritual link interaction…that would be saucy to say the least.

You can get throw gu pot, you throw it, then mount again
and also do not get limacon, it’s a useless skill

I perfer not to dismount, its a prefrance thing. Throw pot is a huge deal so its up to the person.

Limacon has 0 cooldown but for the most part its useless. Yes. Im also not a huge fan of wild shot but its whatever. The build was something i threw together lol but i havent nailed down the SR yet.

For those who are still pursuing SR, I’ve written a quick tutorial on how to execute the mechanics on my video descriptions and I’ll also put it here as I’m constantly getting questions on how to execute it.

TUTORIAL

This mechanic is probably best done with mouse mode. It is possible with keyboard and game controller mode but you’ll have to use target lock in order to use your autos.

Before you start you’ll want to assign hotkeys to your auto/normal attack and retreat shot. You’re going to want them on keys that you can easily hold down both at the same time. This is because the game bugs out sometimes due to lag and puts retreat shot onto CD right away. In order to avoid it, it’s safest to just hold down retreat shot for the entire 10s duration.

Take note you can setup the hotkeys to however you see may fit. This is how I set up mines.

Mouse mode: Normal Attack on “F” key, Retreat Shot on “G” key, Emote on “/” key. (Both “F” key and “/” key are assigned to macros on my mouse)

Slow walk retreat shot - Basic
In my case with playing mouse mode, I set my auto attack to F and retreat shot to G. This is because I have a G600 mouse so I can assign the F key onto a macro key on my mouse so I can hold down G for retreat shot along with direction WASD keys.

How I do it with mouse mode is walk opposite direction of where I want to shoot cause of retreat shot mechanic > press and hold “G” key for retreat shot > press and hold “F” key for auto attack to slow down retreat shot speed.

You’ll always want to do it in this order because the game registers your autos and prioritizes it that it doesn’t register you pressing and holding retreat shot thus it won’t activates.

Auto Attack + Retreat Shot - Intermediate
Now if i wanted to do auto attacks onto a monster with retreat shot I’ll do the same procedure (directional buttons, press/hold retreat shot) but instead I’ll have to switch over and instead of holding down auto attack macro “F” key on my mouse, I’ll be using my left click instead, hover it over the mob I want to shoot and click/hold down on it while also holding down directional keys + retreat shot. You can auto attack mobs in front of you, or you click/hold and attack the ones behind you. The problem with left click and hold is if the monster runs out of your range or you outrun them behind you, you’ll revert back to normal movement speed while doing retreat shot.

This is also how you would do running shot + retreat shot. It follows the same principle except you’ll have running shot buff up. I however only recommend using running shot + retreat shot if you are pulling the monsters and are pulling them to a wall.

Emote + Retreat Shot - Intermediate
This mechanic is rather straight forward once you learn how to slow walk retreat shot and auto attack retreat shot. Emote + retreat shot follows the same procedure. Except in this case you have one extra hotkey to hold. The difference with emote + retreat shot is you have to constantly spam it as pressing and holding it down only uses it once. So in this case you have to spam pressing the emote button in order to stutter and slow down your character while holding down directional keys + retreat shot.

Emote + Auto Attack + Retreat Shot - Advanced
This is probably the hardest mechanic to utilize but also being the most versatile as you can use it in most situation even without a wall to promote your highest DPS/Burst.

This method requires you to use everything from above all at the same time. The difference however is the order you use it. Remember Retreat Shot doesn’t get prioritized when you are holding down auto attack button. Now with emote + retreat + auto attack, you’ll have to switch up the rotation.

Start with retreat shot, press/hold > spam emote > directional keys > click and hold on target.

So for me I press/hold “G” retreat shot > WASD > spam “/” for emote to stutter > mouse over left click and hold onto target.

Now if you want to try these mechanics on keyboard mode and game controller, it follows the same procedures. The only difference is if you want to hit monsters behind you, you’ll want to target lock it first before you start. As always, assign keys to hotkeys that will be convenient.

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I need help. I went Ac1>Rangerc3>Roguec1 but I’m not sure about going SR after this. Should I go for it or there’s better options due to the nerfs. Also I don’t know hwo to go with my build if I don’t go SR so I guess I just gotta deal with it.

The build clashes with Schwarz Reiter because you have to unmount to use Feint+Barrage, which is just annoying.

If you’re okay with that then go for it.

The only way to make SR good again now is if they give you a skill at C3 that allows you to fire both your crossbow and pistol at the same time with auto attacks in the form of a buff skill. “Dual Firing Shot”?? :slight_smile:

#believemakeitreal

It never happens, so OP skill.
p/s: I’m a QS3 SR2 :frowning:

Wow, I pick SR for hackapell too :grinning:
Hope our prediction will be right

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Just thought I’d put this here.

Currently revolver mastery isn’t working. We don’t get to do +50% to mutants.

Hopefully this gets fixed

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Omg just got rank 6 today and holy snot that costume is so snazzy!!!

But giving up my arde dagger and kneeling shot is…really saddening not gunna lie. Hopefully I can get retreat shot 5 and I can get some mobbing but so far so good.i m also having a hard time using any of the techniques because I play on controller sadly. But ima keep trying.

Congrats. Emote + RS + RS might be close to impossible on the controller or at least it’ll make you cramp up cause of having to rapidly press emote. But as for the other 2 mechanics I’m sure you’ll get it down as it’s possible. It took me a few tries till I finally lock down both mechanics.

I finished my daily and I just barely got running with retreat , I still have to practicr slow walking tho witch seems to be harder for me for some reason.

My main issue is actually hitting things with retreat shot even when moving it doesn’t seem like the aoe is hitting anything, then again I only have it at lvl 3 Lel.

for anyone picking SR because of hackapell, you are all very wrong, SR require pistol subweapon while hackapell shows crossbow+dagger and the datamined skills imply slash/dagger attacks

BTW i’m a qs3>wugu1 and thinking of going SR2, i know wugu1 isn’t the best but wugong-gu already destroy every normal monster i encounter and i didn’t like the idea of going archer2. would it be a bad decision? i mean wugong-gu lv5 last for 10sec(15s on the next infected targets) and has 25s cd, and needle blow lv5 last for 10sec and has 20s cd, plus you can use them both while mounted. i know that Wugushi shines on rank2 at least but rank1 still provides good tools imho

p.s. what do you think of QS3>Fletcher1>SR2 for broadhead and barbed arrow mainly, looks fine to me

The thing about fletcher bleed and defense reduction is that other classes also have them.

Of course it means you are more versatile when they aren’t there, but it doesn’t seem so good when you are considering for R5 when Rogue, Scout, and Ranger are still options.

I just got to SR and it just feels so weak atm compare to my wugushi and my cannoneer whether it be single target or aoe. Not to mention retreat shot is so bugged right now both in ktos and in itos. They are also planning to break retreat shot as soon as you do basic attacks which kills the qs3 sr 2 synergy. I stopped and only use my SR q3 is for hunting mats fast.