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Poll for the Fan Art Festival

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#11

Remember that this is the internet and this forum is full of hueknights. If its 100% up to the users to deside we will just end up with stick figures with popolion faces winning.

Instead of submitting the art to the forum, have us send it to you on email.
Make one forumpost with all the artwork that follow the rules of the contest, no 5min paint drawings, no lewd stuff and that it actually follows the theme of the contest, and let them be anonymous when you post them.

When you deside who is going to win, let 5 of them be the staff favorites, 5 be user vote, and let 10-20 be “the goddess choice” AKA random. Mix all of them up and use 10 of them as loadingscreens that you rotate out every week. Prizes will only go to the 10 that got picked by the staff/voters, but alot of the others will get their honorable mentions and maybe a tiny ingame prize. A gatcha cube seems nicely fitting.

This way everyone wins. The staff gets to sort out all the stuff that is bad, the users get their favorites to win and everyone gets to see a lot of nice new art every week.

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#12

user vote highly favors forum veteran, and least-known artist might be complaining.

staff vote is… kinda questionable. seeing that Staff_Yuri seems to be the only one responsible for handling fanart sub-forum. and he/she said doesn’t want / have no right to judges people’s work…

aside from special prizes, all random is a way to go ( like… staff said they wanted to do it from the start anyway )

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#13

If everything is random why would any of the artist bother putting any effort into it or even join in the first place?

User vote is by definition a popularity contest. There are no way of getting around that. But atleast this way it’s the users own fault for a great drawing not winning.

A contest gets kind of pointless if not even the ones arranging it don’t feel like picking the ones they like the most to win.

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#14

I believe there will be an artist who participate regardless, an artist who devoted themselves to something they love without hoping for anything in return. Or they could just give every single participant a special title so people don’t feel like their efforts didn’t paid off.

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#15

If everyone wins, that rather negates the point of a contest.

There will still be some artist that will join, but there will also be alot that don’t. And the ones that stay will normaly be the ones that will only spend an hour or two on their drawing.

Getting good artists to actually join the contest is allready a challenge. I have three other really good artists in just my guild alone, but i’m the only one so far of us that has submitted anything.

#16

this is not even a contest to begin with, as already stated by Yuri.

#17

How about this… we vote for a certain number of staff (say 3 staffs) that will judge the art to be use ingame… in this way, we could indentify who judged the art. if we dont like the ingame art, then in next contest, we will exclude the staff who voted for it…

I understand that we cant vote directly because of possible exploitation in the forums. But at least we could vote.

#18

Should be 100% staff vote.

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#19

I voted for user & staff vote because at least that’s a start. Yes there are problems that come with that, i’ve mentioned that before, but im assuming an all staff vote would be what we had now. This would also be a step in the right direction I think since I personally don’t think random is the way to go when people put hours and weeks into art.

I would personally like there to be categories to make it fair for everyone. Reading the other thread it sounds like many different styles being chosen is the way to go. I think categories would solve that possibly. For example something like: Chibi, realistic, semi-realism, etc. That would be more work however it would let many styles and skill levels shine! There could be 2-4 winners each category depending how many category is chosen.

Random picks would be ok, but be clear and up front about that in the rules next time.

I am happy that the staff want to solve the problem and make this right for the future! That’s very much appreciated.

#20

I don’t know after this whole thing went down, but the community is actually pretty honest when it comes to art. I’m one of the few with an actual dedicated art thread, and I only get about 1/4th of the likes on my submissions than random, highly skilled entrants. Of course, with an actual polling system in place, dupes and etc is unavoidable though. hm.

tbh I don’t think there’s enough of one or another category of style to make categories for it viable. I haven’t actually tallied it up, so I might be wrong. While I’m hugely vouching for multiple styles making it, it’d be counterproductive to be guranteed a win because you have an uncommon style.

I like the mixup of staff/user/honorable mentions thing. If people do want to keep it the same as is though, I’d suggest a participation prize for all valid entries.

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#21

Random? Random is dumb. Pick winners from entries that are actually good, creative, well-made and so on. Every single art fest people have talked about some winners that shouldn’t have won. :confused:

That’s why I feel a mixed voting system of both community and GMs should be good so at least we have a say in selecting winners!

#22

I will close the Vote on Friday, I don’t think we need more time than that.
And after that, based on the result we could have more discussions.

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#23

yeah so stick figures and 30 minute half ***ed works wont count.

#24

Artists put time and effort in their pieces
:cherries:Reward them all:cherries: accordingly even if their work isn’t chosen for display.

There should be no concept of a winner, and it’s not hard to sort out those who make their MS paint “Mr Kim” memes from those who actually drew something decent.

No matter how relative art is

You can in fact tell easily that a starting young artist who still has a lot of room for improvement put effort into their piece regardless of how it compares to the work of a professional artist.

TP is a currency of which there is an unlimited amount.
Fan art Fests are limited, it’s not like this can be abused.

Art contests are a cesspool of un-paid art commissions.
If it’s really a festival and not a contest, reward everyone who made an effort.

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#25

plagiarism???

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#26

really sad news. Calling @STAFF_Yuri

Love on Fire traced over >>

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#27

Good thing someone caught that. That’s a pretty blatant rip.

#28

Art thief alert
/20thief

#29

Yea shes crying Welping on FB ;x;

and like I said, now u can see the Love put into from an Original Artist :slight_smile:

#30

Now that can’t even be considered coincidence. The hair details are so on-point. Even the original creator recognizes it.

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