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[Plague Doctor] Pandemic Experiments

@greyhiem

Thanks a lot, didnā€™t know it was such a popular build :smiley:

I am at Cleric C2 > Bokor C3 > Priest C1 right now, level 200, mostly play at my Warlock but started this one since Iā€™m ready for R8 on him already.

Sorry, but do you know exactly how many maximum targets Discerning Evil has?

I like my build a lot and wouldnā€™t go Pardoner but I can see why most people would, thanks for all the info :smiley:

Discerning evil max 5 targets (with maxed attribute). Each level of attribute = +1 target, max level 4 attribute. Without attribute = 1 target.

You really like Dark Elemental damage right (sorc, warlock, bokor).

Kr likes pardoner since they want to feel powerful solo (and vs bosses), and like to extend the new rank 8 debuffs such as dragoon2 serpentine etc.

Priest1 will offer resurrection, which is very very great too. No other way to bring back dead players, just chrono backmasking.
Moreover priest1 will give you bless & bomb combo. Blessing buff active makes each heal tile hit twice, good to bomb bosses with holy damage.

Be aware of other doctors, they might try to overwrite your debuff (and thus your damage). Similar to wugushi poison debuff DoT problem.

Yeah, I thought it was 5, I understand in a WB scenario Discerning Evil can be great but PvE-wise a mob debuffed by serpentine will die veeery fast anyways.

I just feel like 100% uptime inci with 15+ seconds duration each overheat is enough anyways and Vapours has overheat and better damage/duration.

Yeah, I also like monstrance ans Aspersion for situational uses.

And yeah, I really like Dark Elemental damage hahaha (Rhevisan saddens me so much).

Since my Warlock can solo any end game content at full INT (20 min 145 dungeon, farm 270 mobs easily) Iā€™m doing a more party oriented Cleric, but still canā€™t run away from those Dark dudes hahaha.

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discern has a lot of creative uses, and is getting more and more attractive.

it helps more on bosses and pvp than other things.

on bosses, discern is powerful, espeacially with serpentine debuff
in pvp it can increase cc by 10 seconds, so the 5 second freeze goes up to 15 seconds.

its really more useful on bosses though as they die slower. discerning evil isnt just an offensive skill, its also supportive. yes, it can increase incin time, but it does more than that. hexing duration increase, it increases debuff times from other people (so it makes that wugushi in your party more powerful) and more than that. and the death clock animation is pretty cool too

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The flaw of the design of debuff system makes Discern Evil bad during crowded WB skillspam.
If you have extended a debuff by +10s, for example serpentine 5s->15s, reapplying the debuff will drop it back to 5s again. Your discern will be on CD, so you canā€™t extend it again.
Always happens to me when I extend spear lunge, cleave, etc for swordies. They immediately reapply their debuff and overwrite my extended debuff.

Still a very nice skill, especially for solo bossing (fedi mission etc.), and party dungeon bossing.

@BlueByu

I already understand what Discerning Evil brings to the table. It has both good points and flaws.

Thanks for explaining it anyways :smiley:

dont forget the animation!!!@!!!

Sorry to ask, but is it confirmed that C2 is required for the Pandemic AOE range increase attribute? Probably wasā€¦ But just thought Iā€™d ask. Was hoping it was just coincidentally added during the R8 patch. Thanks in advance!

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/attributes/412010

ā€œRequires: Class Circle 2ā€

So, yeah.

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is pandemic passing debuff exorcise and magnus?

Hello, the bleed from fletcherā€™s broadhead has not been listed, any way someone test it? Same for Zhendu, the property resist reduc does not spread but there is no info about the skill dmg in itself.

Can someone also confirm if the spread skills scale off the original caster or the plague doctor?

What about the debuff from items or weapons? Iā€™ve confirmed that ignition spread but any info on venom? I

I tried with venom and not working xd

I see. thanks for the info. almost bought a venom myself here lol.

I dont know how it works with ignition

it worked with ignition. Iā€™ve confirmed it myself. my build is cleric2 > priest3 > oracle1 > PD1. and those classes have no debuff that can be spread with pandemic so the game forced me to trade my cataclub for ignition TwT

So, my diev c3 is Lost for PD?
I was going for druid, but change my mind. The final build would be cleric c2 diev c3 miko and Pd c2.is there any debuff besides PD 2?

Laima is the second best debuff skill for using PDā€™s Incinerate (first being Zalciai). It gives two debuffs if you buy the attributes, downside is the relatively long cooldown (compared to Zalciai).

You also have carve world tree.

Diev 3 can definetly go PD 2. Great combo too. You wonā€™t need many debuffs for incinerate once you hit Rank 8.

Oooooh nice thank you very much ^^
The only dievā€™s debuff that i saw in that image was from the carve tree so it seemed pretty bad to depende on a skill with such ā€œhighā€ cooldown till i get to rank 8

So, after understanding how the pardoner+PD would work, it looks pretty cool tho. Then wich one would be better? MIko or Pardoner as rank 6? Since I alredy have a diev3 and the Miko is more like, for gettring your magic circles to deal more damege, seems to me that pardoner would be a better pickā€¦ but i would ā€œloseā€ a nice damage skill and some suport skills for alyes tooā€¦ And its a new class so maybe there is more debuffs wich can be spread? idk e.eā€™
sorry if I go out of context iā€™m not shure about anything now ;ā€“; just remove it if so :smiley: