A training room would be perfect.
Then the whole circle resets thing wouldn’t even be needed.
that is so simple, that… that makes sense. A place where you are at lvl 280 any job and can test any stat combination, but you get out of there and you are the same.
You should make your own thread with that post >.> its perfect for everyone.
Keep spinning that hamster wheel. No matter how many posts you make, it doesn’t change what people do and don’t want. The polls tell the tale - you’re in the minority.
What I think you fail to realize is that most of the people you’re arguing with understood in advance of your debates all of the points you make. They disagree with you, but lack your skill with language - they can’t clearly state their frustration with how you tend to pen these arguments into “everything is all right” or “everything is all wrong”.
They weigh the pros and cons - this discussion isn’t black and white by any means - and decide they’d prefer to suffer the possibility of horrible mistakes over easy rerolls at max level.
I’m as shocked by this as you, I’m sure. It’s a faint ray of hope to me, that the majority might not necessarily want the path of least resistance for a change.
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HAHAHAH, man you are too much…First off I did do extensive research for my class, I watched videos after videos forums after forums read guides read every skill. Guess what?, still had issues with the class like kneel shot making 100% of ALL our skills unusable or burrow doing the same as an archer / scout. The game is very vague on its skills and how bad / good it synergizes with other classes in the tree.
Second off, casuals aren’t the first to jump from game to game…that is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard, I know for a fact casuals play the same MMO for years on end, while casuals jump ship at the sight of a brand new shinny mmo / moba / shooter. Again to your last response I am a player who does extensive research before investing time into a class, and even with all my cautionary methods and reading I have still found terrible flaws in my classes. Just to reiterate, Hardcore players are not loyal to a game, they move continuously thru games constantly, casuals are ones that sit and if its comfortable they will sit and enjoy that entertainment for years upon years, and telling people to make extensive research on a game that has skills that are vague to all hell all you are doing is leading them astray. Basically pick the most unbroken unbugged unvague class and you will do fine, that is a no no in any game, I am aware the game is still fresh and that is why people come here to post opinions about the game not about other people posting opinions, yes I’m being a hypocrite at the moment.
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I think different definitions and terms of casual/hardcore gets people mixed up.
There are casual games and hardcore games.
There are casual gamers and hardcore gamers.
Casual gamers can play hardcore games and vice versa.
Here are my simple definitions.
Casual game - Game has easy gameplay and no risk. Dont need much thought or planning to play.
Hardcore game - Game is more difficult and has risk. Needs more thought and planning.
Casual gamer - plays casually. Usually prefers the casual games, but can still like hardcore games.
Hardcore gamer - plays all day every day. These people prefer hardcore games, but can also enjoy casual games.
You also have to consider that this is a grinder game. Killing thousands of monsters just to get one item isnt considered casual to me, no matter how difficult the gameplay is.
I just wanted to say my definitions because they have been being thrown around alot. This debate isnt really about casual gamers and hardcore gamers. Since a hardcore gamer can like casual games and vice versa.
In this game, while the gameplay isnt that difficult, requires thought and planning. It also has risk. This is why i define this game as a hardcore game. Taking out the risk would completely change the game. It would become a completely casual game, minus the grinding.
People say things like “i just dont understand why people dont want resets”. Well, thats because from the beginning this game attracted people who like the less casual games and the grinding. So, thats why most players do not want them. Changing it now would turn off all these players who like the game for what it is.
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I’m pretty sure it actually is about that to most people. The debate on one side says you should earn those class levels because it’s fulfilling to level a crappy job up as an achievement. That is absolutely the only reason to even consider not wanting a reset being pride. Now as someone whose played FFXI 2004-2011 for the longest time and seen what happened when they changed the game adding “casual” content then FFXIV.
But hear me out this absolutely what worries to the max. This game is still in development. Nothing here as we know it is set in stone for the future which could be potentially 7+ jobs added to every class base. If you think for a second that you can predict the future of what is going to be good by then you’re crazy. Almost everyone is going to be rerolling characters if you’re that hardcore to do what ever crazy new content is out like Earth Tower.
Cool huh? Okay, now lets factor in private servers. If you don’t think these are coming then you’re just flat out dumb. You can easily google and find the open source project for the server if you don’t believe me. This is the major looming problem here where if IMC doesn’t get it together you better believe people are rerolling there where the leveling process is easier and will more than likely have resets. So now you as a “hardcore” gamer are stuck on this bot and RMT infested server because IMC just doesn’t do anything exactly like what happened to Ragnarok Online.
I’m like just waiting for all this to happen mainly because IMC is too bone headed to cave on simple little things like this and the trading. Either they are afraid to take action or seriously just don’t know what to do. None of these threads are helping either because we as a community should come to a common ground to prevent this all.
Well, i consider myself a casual gamer since i cant play more than a few hours a day usually, but i like the no rank resets. If new ranks come out and my build is completely useless and i have to reroll, i wouldnt mind. However, Id like to be able to completely reset my character back to character lvl 1, class lvl 1 so i can keep my achievements/cosmetics/, etc. Also keep the team xp i gained with that character.
As for the private servers, what would prevent bots and RMT from going there? I heard there were a ton of bots in RO private server. I’ve never played it so idk.
Searching kneeling shot on the forums, 6th thread down:
-November 2015
30 seconds of research on my end proved that to be a lie. Yes, foxy was a jerk about the question, and I don’t approve of that. The point is, however, that you clearly didn’t do that much research if in the top 10 results for the skill there’s a definite answer to your question.
Come on; you’re making this way too easy.
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You don’t get it man. There’s no time to research. Some people play this game once a month. They can’t spend their precious time researching. They gotta just play the game and be the best.
If your game requires research in order to be the best, then your game is flawed.
Right?
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I have often wondered how long the users asking for a reset spend on these forums doing so. It is way more than they spent researching their builds, clearly.
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I protest in being a jerk.
xD
But i had fun with it … so i feel a bit guilty.
LOL yes. With the effort that they have spent creating multiple threads, they would managed to level an alt to level 30 at least.
Say yes to class reset.
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Mostly we do this when we on work .
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Which is exactly the time you could have spent researching your build and never need a reset.
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With the exception of Skyliner, which a lot of people did think was going to happen, no nerf has happened that everyone didn’t see coming a mile away.
And does that common ground happen to be whatever you happen to advocate? These forums are for discussion and letting people voice their opinions so suggesting anything like that is rather silly attempt to disagree with others on any topic. And IMC has spent years on this game, I’m pretty sure they have thought out and researched plenty of things to know what to do. Game developers are sort of artists too, while their job of course involves marketing and customer service. I think they should be allowed to have freedom to create games they enjoy developing themselves and what they might have always wished to exist.
If someone plays only once a month, his opinion should be completely ignored and it shouldn’t affect on any changes in the game, period. (Do I really have to explain why?)