Tree of Savior Forum

Is it allowed to cheat now?

Why bot when you can AFK farm? It’s legal, grants around the same rewards and carries no risk to it at all.

Even if the admins don’t like it, as long as the system(game) allows it(no file injecting/modifying), ‘cheating’ in this game is simply ‘playing the game in its true fullest capacity’.
It’s only cheating once IMC catches you playing with their ‘remote control’ of the game that they themselves left buried hidden.

Keeping admin like options in the client side is a really dumbest idea on IMCs side. Could’ve work if they thought of making ToS as a console game with 0 online features instead of an MMO.

You have to try hard, be careless, or be a fool to get punished for cheating. Guildmates and other folks look at my lodge like “wow so many chars, but your gear sucks and you’re that poor?” But its like why try to gear beyond the essentials required for basic leveling when you’re surrounded with this.

Mostly I feel punished for playing legitimately, mostly.

I’m level 200, have an adventurer rank of 780, Have 2 gladiator bands, 2 sissels and a manamana. I’m sitting on nearly 40 million silver. I think if you think botting gets you that far ahead you’re the real fool.

If you believe those achievements are significant compared to what exploiters and cheaters have amassed over the past months then its time to expand your consciousness.

Sissel is constantly the most expensive thing listed on Orsha’s Markets. I have enough idle silver left over playing legitimately to buy 4 of them.

What would I get out of botting at this point besides risk a ban? I’m not talking about hook64 users. Their day will come. It’s not a matter of if they’ll get banned it’s a matter of when.

Level 200, 2 Glads, 2 Sissel, Manamana and 40. With 1 Char at level 200? o.o

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/g89ndjdpeg5j6ib/Screenshot%202016-10-08%2017.56.34.png

I could rush to 280 and get bored like other people but I prefer to go at my pace.

I’m also leveling a druid and a chronomancer along with them but they aren’t my completionist characters.

IMC doesn’t easily take hacker/botters down, specially the big paying ones now the population just keeps declining, unless the community puts massive pressure on them for each hacker/botter each.
We have multiple report threads sitting 3+months and nothing.

To add up those big earners that spend money here, are also in guild communities that do the exploits themselves as a group.

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1600+ hrs played here, the 1st 3 months I actually cared about cheaters. I created over 60 bot report threads alone just for Snowdance, Majie, and Momohime, all in all it took about 15 weeks to get all 3 of them banned.
After that mess I just said fk it, they don’t care, they aren’t going to stop them, its just the reality. I shifted my focus in-game. I created multiple scout 3s to farm the 145 dungeon solo for 1mil silver cash per day per alt, thus avoiding all the bots and afk sorcs using autopot macros.
You seriously have to stop thinking about it or you will go nuts, IMC is hands down the most incompetent company in the business atm, nothing, NOTHING will change.

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Hey look. Yet another of the many methods that outearns all of the automated methods of silver grinding.

My methods better but I can respect yours. :slight_smile:

If someone catches you cheating just bring your friends and contest the thread to make it like you never did anything wrong. IMC will only ban if majority go nuts about you. Basically its ok to cheat as long as the cheating report dont escalate.

I stop reporting bots altogether because IMC doesnt even care lol. Cheating in this game is so rampant youll actually look more stupid if you dont cheat.

The in game report feature for bots does work btw.
And from what I can tell you can’t crash the channel you’re in to roll back upgrade failures anymore so…fixed? Who cares.

Yes they patched the rollback aspect to stop the wpn upgrades but it can still be pretty detrimental to people trying to world boss or pvp/gvg, the hook64 lifetime subscribers can crash any player they want at will, or force invite anyone they want into a party etc, I can understand people still being ticked off about that.

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And you are doing the same thing as well.

You still can crash for fun like screwing with shops. Only rollback was fixed not the crashing itself.

I don’t hate this game. I enjoy throwing time at it.
Gotta do something between TBL queues.

Afaik Mr Hue gets paid to hue on forums while at work, I would like that too :innocent:

What about those people who abuse them so much before? No bans? No equipment rollback? Just let them be? after the cheating? So youre telling me to let them be as long as the cheating is not caught? How are you so sure you cant abuse them anymore if hacking is possible in this very game? Just because IMC said they were patched doesnt mean there is no other way to abuse that again.

Cheating and hacking is so rampant in this game. There is no denying on that.

Yeah i don’t know why people keep defending this “machine learning based” bot report feature. Total bullshit. It is completely manual and missed soooooo many obvious bots. IMC has misled or flat out lied in various statements and this is one of them.

Those names listed on the ban list are probably names that got perma ban. Usually they are bots that are too obvious that the gm can even catch them with eyes closed. However, most…if not all of them are bots that have hundreds of copies…banning 1 or 2 of them isnt doing anything at all tbh. Notice that H**k64 ‘banned’ players never show up in those lists, because they are all temp ban.