@Ltb_Regen
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Thats not how subweapon cancel worksā¦ The stab attack activates when u are using normal dual weaponā¦ Subweapon skill cancels delay after attack and it makes your attack much fasterā¦
Thats why steparu wast fast in this videoā¦
Yeah, that one! Thanks for looking into this!
I get this in the Help Menu in the iCBT but the image are small =/
@harimaku
Thats not how savargery works. The stab attack does not activates when u are using swords and hammers, but on Spear it will since they do stabbing attack. Savagery skill deals double attack after an attack and it makes your attack much faster.
Thats why steparu wast fast in this video with a dagger that deals stabbing attack. not toyhammer or swords. but will apply on spears.
I was talking about Subweapon cancel skillā¦ It make your attack faster as you can see in this video. He did use dagger that gives piereceā¦ So the savagery worked with that weaponā¦
@harimaku
I was talking about Savagery skillā¦ It make you double attack as you can see in this video. He did use dagger that gives piereceā¦ So the savagery works with Spears which also deal stabbing damage.
Yeah but it does not make Hoplite Opā¦ It just increase his normal attack damageā¦
which bring us back to the theory.
Savagery does not increase normal attack it makes stabbing damage a double attack. ANY stab damage from normal or skill will deal double attack.
Hence the Burst potential of Hoplite becomes greater combined with Barbarianās savagery
terminology for Burst
another example of Burst damage in RO example
dealing a very high damage in a few seconds.
in theory Pierce
will deal 14 hits in less than 1 second when attacking bosses with savagery, thus dealing Burst damage.
Like i explained on another post :
So as you can see there : combining two dps classes always double the burst. Having Cataphract + Hoplite will double the damages you can do within a due time because of cdās etc. But with youāre barbarian build you will double auto attacks damage too because of savagery (with a spear). So you may attain a better dps than a cataphract +hoplite but you will lose mobility at the same time, and aoe damages (since the barbarian is more 1v1 than a cataphract). Finally i didānt count yet the fact that when mounted cataphracts attack is buffed (cause we donāt know by how much yet) but i doānt think it will be much more than 10% ^^
Anyway i think with all the calculations ado : In term of skill power : Hop+Barb = Cata+Hop
In term of auto attack power Hop+Barb > Cata+Hop (by two times)
In term of mobility Hop+Barb < Cata+Hop
In terms of aoe damages Hop+Barb < Cata+Hop (by two times or more)
So advantages like and disadvantages like every classes are equals 
It canāt be cuz Hoplite and Barbarian is same Rank how change class like that?
In CBT 3 Savagery didint work with Skills and I donāt think it work currently because it would be too Op.
Just wondering, this game doesnāt have any planned PVP. Any reasons behind rolling a PVP build right away? (only reason i ask is because in FFXIV i chose marauder (2hander) over paladin (sword/shield) because i figured when and if they came out with large scale pvp a marauder would pwn a paladin in 1 on 1 pvp. But pvp didnt come out for year(s) and I was stuck with an offtank which couldnt tank nearly as well in PvE as a sword/shield combo.
So it just brings back regret for wasting my time with an PvE offtank because FFXIV was like oh there will be 50 on 50 pvp at release. then the game released and they said it will be within 1 month, in the next patch. then it turned to 6 months away. its like 2 years later and they still dont have it. so i dont recommend rolling a PVP build anticipating them installing pvp if its not there at release.
Besides, even if they release PvP 1 year after release, your character could get nerfed inbetween now and then and major patches will come out to fix certain pvp aspects. then when pvp is rolled out, further nerfing will occur after that as ppl complain about xyz class being OP. So i say just gun for PvE supremacy now, gather up cash and items, then when pvp rolls along, get a pvp alt.
if harimaku is correct then the hoplite+bar build is not an OP build.
thanks for the info
You can always do hop+bar+corsair, spear+dagger auto attack build?
Crit ATK rate and Crit RATE are diff.
Crit ATK is damage when your attack hit critical state
Crit Rate is % how frequent your attack to be critical
This old video and yeah it worked in CBT1 and 2 but maybe they realized it is too strongā¦ It seems Savagery worked with skill that didint even use stabā¦
As you can see in this video.
I think it has an attribute before that lets it proc on slash attack as well. But yeah for OP reasons, it was removed.