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Hoplite-Barbarian new OP

And why the heck are you telling me this if I was correcting Karjalainen to begin with…?

I found newest youtube clip with new class advancement system
class build
sword > Peltasta > hoplite2 > barbarian2

I don’t know does it against NDA or not so I will not post it here.

video date May 2015, savagery has attribute then that allows it to apply to slash attacks. Attribute has been removed in the recent CBT and Barbarian nerfs.

your not the one breaking NDA, its the player that recorded and uploaded it, its their username thats on the game. besides patch notes threads info pretty much break NDA already

If they made a video it’s already against the NDA, no worries about posting lol.

Calling for the link. :C

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Then here
youtu.be/FsOMAWEbkys

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I don’t mind being stupid for asking such stupid question, but what the hell is NDA?

Also it’s hard to tell if it’s really OP without me having a comparison with another class, I mean compared to some class, is the damage really that absurd?

What if we put corsair in the mix, spear+dagger?

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IMO it is not that op all buff has short duration skill cooldown also longer than buff duration, so it’s like ultraman when fighting on earth.

NDA is Non-Disclosure Agreement. People are not allowed to post things about the KR test server, unless a GM says so (in Steparu’s case, since she was not showing any of the new things, she was allowed to post about Corsair).

About the video, I think it was on par with a 2h Highlander+Barbarian.

Well if it’s on par with other builds I don’t see it being OP, unless 2h High+bard is OP as well.

Why does every swordsman build have to revolved around barb haha.

Savagery is on 43 sec CD in ToSB database the videos show Savagery duration around 36 sec. you only got 7 sec difference.

besides only daggers and spears can benefit via auto-attack from savagery.

barbarian buffs are powerful

aggressor = always hit + crit bonus

frenzy/flange = gradual damage increase on 1 target, resets if you attack different target. very powerful on bosses.

savagery = double attack on stab attacks + crit bonus

all combination take huge benefit in offense if they take barbarian class.

for what i experienced in past CBT, savagery is a skill that make your attack become double stab-attack with all weapon, and you can only trigger it on auto attack.

i dont know if last CBT the skill was reworked

@pygmalion001
see video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsOMAWEbkys

The build seems pretty good yep. But don’t forget the boss he his fighting have 15-20 less levels ^^ And we would need some video with news builds that combine hoplies with other classes (Cataphract/Centurion/etcetc) to see if this barbarian build is much stronger or not than them. ^^ (not just in term of dps because some build could be more tanky :p)

Savagery does not give 100% Double attack and that build is definitely not Op at all… Op is when you hit 10k critical rate with normal attack constantly… Like barbarian did in CBT 3…

Yeah Im interested to see Hop + Cata level 200 because they Increase a lot of Catas skills power in these patch…

Yeah seems they changed impaler again, but the traduction wasn’t really precise. What i know is with CBT3 already they made most of the skills having multiple hit because the class wasn’t powerfull enough at first. ^^
What’s hard with Cata is that you really want Rush most of the time so you want C3 and for Hoplite you wants C2 at least for the boss attributes on pierce.

Barb itself is just so freakin’ powerful. It goes great with anything since it’s niche is buffs that can be used with any weapon. I personally think Highlander3 and Barb2 will is better but of course i’m just speculating.

If people are concern about OP sword builds, it’s not because of the new system. It’s because of Barb.

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