hahaha thx o.o
you are one of those guys who max zornhau and dont put points into your best doppel skills when c3 comes ?
great then go with zucken redel 5++ and leave dov at 5-10 ( lmao ) and cyclone at 10
and then see how that works
probably like that T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T_TT_T_T_TT_T_T_T
No, I max Mordschlag and leave Cyclone at 1. 
Seriously, wait and see why people will get Zucken and Redel at level 6.
He really don’t know what is saying. He said to we do some research when surely he know nothing.
we must tell him something or let him brainstorm?
“oh no ur wrong!”
ur wrong, u forgotten cleave bonus and skill attribute
With skill attributes lv 1000 + cleave will not boost critical damage from highlander two hand mastery.
Two hand mastery gives you a flat amount that you can see when press F1.
Sorry.
Maybe you want learn something here:
Critical noob trap
Critical damage (Edit: Critical Attack not critical damage) is added before modifiers (except crit and T0) though. So yes the 2h mastery gives a flat amount of critical damage, but that does get multiplied by attributes + cleave (+ 2h damage modifier) ect.
Please explain where that critical get multiplied:
(((((Skill Attack + Effective Attack) + (random(0% … 100%) * Magic Amplification)) * (100% + Base Modifier)) - ((Effective Defense * (100% + Level Penalty)) + Elemental Resistance)) * (100% + (0 or 50% if crit)) + HERE COMES THAT FLAT CRITICAL WHEN YOU PRESS F1(0 or Critical Attack) + Extra Elemental Attack + Enemy Specific Damage) * (100% + Skill Modifier) * (100% + Common Modifier) * (100% + Target Modifier) * (100% + Enhance Modifier) + Bonus Damage
People here loves to spread misinformation.
Meant Critical Attack my bad 
Thus to your point earlier,[quote=“Kascly, post:251, topic:263486”]
skill attributes lv 1000 + cleave will not boost critical damage from highlander two hand mastery.
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Your critical attack is boosted by attributes + cleave as they multiply your critical damage which gets boosted by two hand sword mastery.
(100% + Skill Modifier) * (100% + Common Modifier) * (100% + Target Modifier) * (100% + Enhance Modifier)
is what multiplying critical Attack.
its not a great attribute, but its not bad either.
you can think of it as your personal +xx elemental attack when wielding 2h sword (of course if you crits)
But it does? As critical damage is as you have said: ((physical + skill attack - effective defence)*1.5)+Critical attack) * modifier (non-fencer)
Yes, critical attack is flat but the mastery adds 50% to that crit attack which we see by pressing F1, so a third of that is FROM the two hand sword mastery. This is multiplied by cleave (target modifier) and enhance attribute as @jordyrein mentioned.
So, this boosts your critical damage by adding critical attack which can be multiplied by said modifiers. I don’t see how you’re misinterpreting that.
Critical attack from table F1 = Sacrament buff and neither get multiplied, they are added at THE END of formula.
Please do this math:
10+5*5=?
A) 35
B) 75
@jordyrein
A correction in your statement:
That modifiers don’t multiply critical attack.
Your saying they’re the same type of damage? … Ok…
Your formula, jordyrein,
and myself disagree.[quote=“Kascly, post:258, topic:263486”]
10+5*5=?A) 35B) 75
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A as there are no brackets to indicate otherwise… but there are which include crit attack on your formula and mine. Check the formula you posted.
Ok boy go ahead with akisera’s highlander math:
Here the king of math 
Nah, I know that is wrong. You could probably add a couple thousand at best at current level cap.
You already shown the damage table but still ask how crit attk multiply
:facepalm
If you looks at its otherway the only multiply thats crit skip is only 150% multiply from crit its self
Im’ done with that.
Critical attack from highlander mastery is too small pretty like concentrate.
This will not do 6k damge like was stated.
Skill mod alrdy there (60%)
Cleave i just dont calculate there but if you add cleave its improve from 1000 to 1500 just thats as i alrdy said
is it just me or no one cares about the screenshot??
anyway good to see people here having somewhat ‘healthy’ argument. learning from these talks will further improve gameplay knowledge.
Going back to Topic, remember the KR guy with DEX Doppel using +18 twin vienie? just saw his Vid and he was taunting monster for party. this gives me the conclusion, with his build (Class and STAT), he must have abandoned everything and lay down all he’s got into EVA…
makes me wonder, Do anyone here have some info regarding EVA in KTOS? was the EVA CAP lifted? or does EVA gain some Advantage at higher levels?
(or maybe i was thinking, the guy who was just a victim of old meta “NO-PELT NO LIFE” was just utilizing the best out of his Class built?)