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[Guide] Top DPS 2hander Doppel Swordsman Build

Class and Rank Swordsman
#253

Please explain where that critical get multiplied:

(((((Skill Attack + Effective Attack) + (random(0% … 100%) * Magic Amplification)) * (100% + Base Modifier)) - ((Effective Defense * (100% + Level Penalty)) + Elemental Resistance)) * (100% + (0 or 50% if crit)) + HERE COMES THAT FLAT CRITICAL WHEN YOU PRESS F1(0 or Critical Attack) + Extra Elemental Attack + Enemy Specific Damage) * (100% + Skill Modifier) * (100% + Common Modifier) * (100% + Target Modifier) * (100% + Enhance Modifier) + Bonus Damage

People here loves to spread misinformation.

#254

Meant Critical Attack my bad :stuck_out_tongue:

Thus to your point earlier,[quote=“Kascly, post:251, topic:263486”]
skill attributes lv 1000 + cleave will not boost critical damage from highlander two hand mastery.
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Your critical attack is boosted by attributes + cleave as they multiply your critical damage which gets boosted by two hand sword mastery.

#255

(100% + Skill Modifier) * (100% + Common Modifier) * (100% + Target Modifier) * (100% + Enhance Modifier)

is what multiplying critical Attack.
its not a great attribute, but its not bad either.
you can think of it as your personal +xx elemental attack when wielding 2h sword (of course if you crits)

#256

Let me try again with a quote:

@jordyrein
Finally some one here understand how that works.

#257

But it does? As critical damage is as you have said: ((physical + skill attack - effective defence)*1.5)+Critical attack) * modifier (non-fencer)

Yes, critical attack is flat but the mastery adds 50% to that crit attack which we see by pressing F1, so a third of that is FROM the two hand sword mastery. This is multiplied by cleave (target modifier) and enhance attribute as @jordyrein mentioned.

So, this boosts your critical damage by adding critical attack which can be multiplied by said modifiers. I don’t see how you’re misinterpreting that.

#258

Critical attack from table F1 = Sacrament buff and neither get multiplied, they are added at THE END of formula.

Please do this math:

10+5*5=?
A) 35
B) 75

@jordyrein
A correction in your statement:

That modifiers don’t multiply critical attack.

#259

Your saying they’re the same type of damage? … Ok…

Your formula, jordyrein,

and myself disagree.[quote=“Kascly, post:258, topic:263486”]
10+5*5=?A) 35B) 75
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A as there are no brackets to indicate otherwise… but there are which include crit attack on your formula and mine. Check the formula you posted.

#260

Ok boy go ahead with akisera’s highlander math:

Here the king of math :+1:

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#261

Nah, I know that is wrong. You could probably add a couple thousand at best at current level cap.

#262

You already shown the damage table but still ask how crit attk multiply

:facepalm

If you looks at its otherway the only multiply thats crit skip is only 150% multiply from crit its self

#263

Im’ done with that.
Critical attack from highlander mastery is too small pretty like concentrate.
This will not do 6k damge like was stated.

#264

Skill mod alrdy there (60%)

Cleave i just dont calculate there but if you add cleave its improve from 1000 to 1500 just thats as i alrdy said

#265

is it just me or no one cares about the screenshot??

anyway good to see people here having somewhat ‘healthy’ argument. learning from these talks will further improve gameplay knowledge.

Going back to Topic, remember the KR guy with DEX Doppel using +18 twin vienie? just saw his Vid and he was taunting monster for party. this gives me the conclusion, with his build (Class and STAT), he must have abandoned everything and lay down all he’s got into EVA…

makes me wonder, Do anyone here have some info regarding EVA in KTOS? was the EVA CAP lifted? or does EVA gain some Advantage at higher levels?

(or maybe i was thinking, the guy who was just a victim of old meta “NO-PELT NO LIFE” was just utilizing the best out of his Class built?)

#266

Don’t know if he is full eva. I saw many blocks when cleric casted stone skin. Is a bit strange mobs 29x with high hit rate(or he has some str)
Anyway, 120k in skyliner says everything. He applied crosscut+that skill ignored some def + skyliner 60k each hit(dov15). He posted his stats? I didn’t saw.

His doppel is like mine sw-pelt-high3-doppel2/3.

#267

yes on some other vid he showed stat (saalus canyon mission), more or less purely dex, no STR no CON.

Blocks do exist a lot with stone skin. that is nothing new i think. even the EVA formula thread needs some necromancer to fill up this questions. does EVA gain benefit at higher levels?

#268

What I noticed evasion come first and blocked/landed attack comes after. I will check his other vids right now.

#269

no, he is 1 - 4 str dex.
he got around 200 str, and 350 dex.

#270

Thanks, i stand corrected. here are his Stats. credits to @greyhiem for this screenshot https://forum.treeofsavior.com/uploads/default/optimized/3X/5/8/58b7518d3b17da0f9680df972abcc7f725a0b5d2_1_611x499.png

#271

I think this one without buffs is better:

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From here you can see go full str seems stupidity.

#272

You don’t have to say that. someone gonna post his 10F Earth tower cube again. lol

@Reilet btw, mind if i ask for some EVA / DODGE calculation formula? if it benefits on higher level or not?