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Guide to Fencer / Doppel / Bullet Marker [PVE]

Class and Rank Swordsman
#418

Yeah if your ping is good enough and you’re playing fencer frenzy really isn’t worth the time it takes to stack with auto attacks when you could just be using a 0 cd skill instead. My limited testing (with barb 3) makes it seem like it’s worth stacking it up to 5. 10 is too long and results in a DPS loss. 5 is more DPS, but it’s only marginally better. Like hardly any difference at all when you take the charge up time in to consideration. A single stack (just casting) is alright too because you don’t have to put any extra effort in to it.

This is something I’ve always wondered in general about skills where you have to charge it up strictly for damage – if the wind up time past level 1 is worth waiting. For example, cartar stroke and dragon tooth. Of course it’s worth it if you get something more than just damage out of it (like multishot) but I’m leaning towards the charge time for skills in general just results in overall DPS loss.

#419

Frenzy also has a disadvantage of being a skill you need to actively use. You lose SP and time if the skill has animation akin to Warcry. It also has a short duration, even at level 10, it’s not possible to have 100% uptime. It’s weak burst skill at best.

#420

I would also have to agree about Frenzy and Warcry. ive rolled about 12 swordsman so far 6 with barb variants and i have to say for each of the builds i felt like Frenzy and Warcry just wasnt worth it. They have such high cooldowns. i could use those skills points on helmchopper or pouncing.

#421

I don’t like frenzy much but I really like warcry. If not for offensive abilities, you can use warcry as a secondary swashbuckling if needed. I use it for that purpose all the time

#422

@Lostac What the stats for 1 - Pelt - Barb 3 - Fen 2?

What the stat bonus every 5 level right?

#423

For Warcry doubts please refer to here, around the first few posts I tried my best to explain how it worked.

Edit: please note that Wracry with all attributes has a 102 seconds cooldownif memory serves me right.

#424

If you want something more damage focused get high str, but I don’t recommend a high str-con fencer if you are barb, highlander-fencer fits it more.

1:2 str dex or 1:3 str dex with extra stats on con, put more con if you need it. By extras, those from revelations, statues, etc

#425

Any videos on how to propetly block with flanconnade, especially on bosses? Can’t seem to time it properly on siaulai mission.

#426

there’s one on my first post, it requires you to have decent ping to time it properly, and if that single boss’ attack is a multi-hit (example, poata roar, minotaur fire breath) you cannot block it fully

#427

Hi I’m nearing rank 5 now and I still haven’t made up my mind if I should go get barb 3 or cor. Cor c1/c2 looks fun to play but Pouncing looks good as well. Will I lose a lot of damage if I go cor?

#428

yes, corsair is more of a utility class, barb is damage, all that damage! What makes the difference is warcry c3 attribute. Pouncing is nice but ends up being a 1 point skill due to the long cooldown. You can add more if you like, taking points away from cleave

but corsair c2 is good for hexen bursting with coquille

#429

Yeah, missed that. I really have bad ping so I guess that’s one reason. I almost always assume tank role in dungeons (I’m 1:3 str dex) when there is no real tank. I have a fairly good dodge but I also want to deal damage while I tank so I won’t feel like a total meat shield :upside_down:

#430

Yes, that’s the proper way to tank / hold aggro

people don’t just taunt and c block, which I see a lot on my new alt during mission runs…

#431

What is better 1:2 str dex or 1:3 str dex?

I’m new to the game, I have no idea how to put in stats.

#432

It’s your preference,
1:2 str means more raw physical attack
1:3 dex means more critical rate and evasion

#433

I’d go for this one, I don’t understand the 1:2 str thing.

#434

Btw, is there any decent 170+ armor before Virtov? I accidently got Rokas plate armor instead of leather. It was too late when I realized that it was a stupid mistake. Currently wearing 170 white armor atm. Roxona leather armor seems not that good.

#435

I can’t really think of other armors, Roxona leather top is okay but not worth your money, stick to any whites then try finding an Ibre Leather top before Virtov, it’s very hard to find a specific virtov part anyway

#436

Can someone in here sell me a venier? In all seriousness, what do you think of 1:1 str dex or at that point, would it be more beneficial dps wise to go more dex like maybe 300 dex?

#437

If you have enough crit rate items to cover for it, str is always better in terms of direct damage. Dex is more of a mix, it provides you evasion and crit rate, while soloing, evasion is very important to make your self consistent in slaughtering mobs than taking constant breaks.