Go Ele 3, your other skills would be much stronger and with Frost Cloud/Meteor you donāt need JP or Hangman.
If the cooldowns are not so horrible like Warlock, Rune Caster will be a much better choice for ele for now 
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I have both wiz3 and pyro 2 on ktos, gotta test wiz3 again after the buff. So far, I still liked pyro2 much better. Wiz3 was just too weak to me even though I liked magic missiles (but it is still far weaker than anything that pyro has)
AH, with Rune Caster, thing gets more interestingā¦
I am trying to find a build with a lot of combos and synergy xD I love linker but not a fan of pyro, sorc or necroā¦
I do have a wiz 3 ele 2 as well but the lack of cc drives me crazy xD hard to find party too since everyone wants Linker, and Archer serve better as a dps in a group with linker 
which build is the best to make alche Qq i playing with a friend and he is playing a Cleric tree
@elfochka : guess wiz 3 is not suitable for casual play, you need at least rank 5, 6 to catch up with other builds 
@Lanceis: You still have sleep - one of the best cc in this game.
It doesnāt work against flying mobs xD And sometimes it failsā¦
Thatās what I was thinkingā¦ Overbuffed archers are going to make dps wizards not needed.
Was hoping all secret classes (if rune master is 1) were all r5.
Rune master is Rank 6 from what I heard :\
Thereās no real pattern really, Shinobi is R7, Chaplain is R5 and Runecaster is R6.
Why would you think that? the FIRST hidden class we got was R7.
These are the things I think about when I think ābalanceā (and not necessarily skill balance). Itās equal opportunity.
Wiz 3 Ele 3 (or even when you are Ele 2) usually donāt feel the need for JP and Hangman. You already have enough CC and damage against monsters anyway.
@elfochka The fun of Wiz 3 starts at Rank 5, where you have meteor for 255% overkill.
Soā¦Rune Caster info was out and look like this is a very good class.
Things to note:
- Every skill has 10s cast time = > Wiz 3 is a must
- Skills consume 1 rune (500 silver)
- Attribute Rune Caster: skilled cast (max lv50)
If user has no quick cast, quick cast lv 1 will be applied => wiz 3 isnāt required for class change quest.
Inflict massive damage to multiple enemies in a specified location. Attacked enemies reflect additional damage around each other.
Look like a combination of Meteor (huge dmg) and Electrocute (?). More targets => more hits
Increases the damage of Ice magic of the caster and the party by 300%
Duration: 10s x level (150s max)
Attribute: Slow
Whilst [Isa] is active, 5% chance per attribute level to cause a 70% movement speed debuff for 4s when normally attacking an enemy.
Create a circle to temporarily increase the size of allies. Ally size becomes Large, and Attack Power and Defense increases.
Buff Duration: 30s x level
Circle Duration: 10s
Attack Power and Defense increase 100% (not sure if magic attack apply too)
Movement speed + 20
Attribute: Health
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Increase hp by [20% CON stat] x [60 x per attribute level].
A divine attack which is projected from the front line,
Seem like a bad skill, remind me of ice spike.
Raises the chance of resisting status conditions to yourself and your party temporarily.
Resist Chance: 10% x level
Duration: 10s x level
Attribute: Critical Resistance
Whilst under the effect of [Algiz], Critical Resistance will increase based on the Casterās Spirit by 20% per attribute level (max 100%).
Btw, Warlock also got a huge buff today: the spirit spheres created by Dark Theurge and Invocation vanish after hitting a target based upon skill level.
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Nice skillsā¦ But those cooldowns are awfully long. And the cast timesā¦ Even wiz3 will waste 5 seconds to cast any of the skills, it is an eternity even to wiz3.
Can it really be a dps class withsuch cast times and cds? Or is it a buffing class for party members? How do you think guys?
What does the buff to warlock mean? I donāt get it.
Hagalaz has the same dmg formula and cd with meteor so i think its ok. Those buffs are really OP and very long durations so cd wonāt be a problem (need lv10 for 100% uptime ). Especially Thurisaz, +100% dmg/def, 20 mov and a bunch of hp, this thing put all other wiz buffs in shame 
, need to be careful when using at field boss though since anyone can get the buff 
its simple, those skills get more hit counts now. For example: Dark Theurge was 5 spirits = 5 hits before but in this patch those spirits can hit more than once according to level (lv 3 = 15hits, lv10 =50hitsā¦)
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Youāre forgetting itās a hidden class so itās c1 only, no lv10 skills.
Also I think runecaster will be just fine for builds without wiz 3 that quick cast attribute is pretty nice.
The cast times suck hard even with quick cast though, 10% and even 50% wonāt help muchā¦
Where do the devs say hidden class only has 1 circle?
We donāt know yet, nothing said hidden class has C1 only. They have ā3 starsā like any other class too:
And unlike Chaplain (literally C4 Priest), both Shinobi and Rune Caster are independent class. [quote=āelfochka, post:139, topic:125788, full:trueā]
The cast times suck hard even with quick cast though, 10% and even 50% wonāt help muchā¦
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Its not that bad, 5s & 10s are a lot. I use lv 8 Meteor (4s) all the time in CBT2