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[Legacy Guide] [Outdated after Re:BUILD patch] Hackapell & Rogue Class Lounge

But thing like ‘make an Hacka swordman’ is not an option if you don’t have plan to main swordman.
Because it’s always expensive to make a swordman DPS.
And we main archers/hacka for many reasons.

So to most of us it’s time to forget Hacka.

Well, I’m a minority and I’m going to continue with the class, investment will not be a problem, before giving the verdict I’ll have to play and test some builds.

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Gonna try the new one out but prob retiring my hacka for good unless there’s some interesting stuff for it now. Hang in there boys

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Seeing Barbarian skills work makes it more bearable, the problem is that the hacka skills themselves look pretty weak with the new SF.

Why give Stormbolt 10secs CD and Skharp 5 Overheats if they hit like wet noodles?

The thing that made Hacka special in Archer tree was the access to damage types(Archers mostly only have Bow and Gun damage,Hacka had all types) and unique itemization thanks to the sword offhand. Now it really feels like “Cataphract’s Sword Using Cousin”.

Hi everyone, I have read hacka now. If you have any questions regarding the skills, please leave a message.
I will put a short summary

Hackapel general:
-mounted class
-must use sword + shield
-skills only available on mount
-suffer from low AoE, use AoE attack ratio gear or get a falconer friend

First of all, my recommendation:


Other option: stormbolt down to 1 just for the debuff, and higher helm chopper => higher damage overall, but longer skill-rotation (consider: you have other class skills too).

Stormbolt: physical & pierce
Enemies hit by stormbolt receive bonus damage from Slash-type attacks. Deals bonus damage to frozen enemies & ice-type enemies.
AoE attack ratio: 0
1.Bonus damage taken from Slash-type attacks: 50%, duration 10s
2.Bonus damage on ice or frozen: 100%
Deals 3 hits of damage
No overheat, cooldown 10s

Skarphuggning: physical & slash
Aoe Attack ratio: 11
4 hits
5 overheat, cooldown 20s
Note: this skill does not scale on attack speed. Spamming 5 overheats takes 3-4 seconds due to the long animation

Grind Cutter: physical & slash
AoE attack ratio 7
Slash continously in front of you.
5 hits of damage
overheat 3, cooldown 15s
Note: this skill does not scale on attack speed. Luckily the animation is quite fast. Estimate 2 seconds to finish all 3 overheats

Infinite Assault: physical & strike
Quickly charge through the enemy and quickly return to your position. Your movespeed increases after this skill.
Target limit: 12 (does not use AoE attack ratio)
-Movespeed increase: +[3 per skill level] speed, for 3s
2 hits
2 Overheat, 25s cooldown
Note: range is big and does not need AoE attack ratio to hit a lot of enemies. Sometimes the animation will make you desync/stutter/lag/get stuck. Very fast skill animation.

Cavalry charge: physical & strike
Charge through the enemy. Your def increases after this skill.
AoE attack ratio 6
Increases your magical def & physical def by 100% after using this skill, duration 5s
0 overheat, cooldown 20s
Recommendation : 0 pointer or 1 pointer skill. Uptime on buff is too low.

Helm Chopper: physical & strike
Strike the enemy’s head to stun it.
AoE attack ratio 4
Stuns briefly during the hit (1~2s).
2 hits
3 Overheat, cooldown 20s
Special effect: during Barbarian’s Frenzy buff, the Helm Chopper will increase in size (bigger AoE size) & the stun duration increases to 4s.

hakkapalle: buff
-increases attack speed
-you must absolutely skip this skill

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The AOE Attack ratio is absurdly too bad… and the skill factors are kinda too low, is this class still alright?

Hello,
wanted to know if the riding ability (horse) has synergy with the hackapell skills. would you please let me know?

Horse skill provides pain barrier and mounted-status. Increases your movement speed +5 too.
No big synergy for hacka. The special effect of Templar Horse: Peltasta Hard shield skill’s duration lasts until you dismount the horse.

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Hakkapalle buff now more adding 30%evasion at lvl10?

No more evasion. Only attack speed. Attack speed is useless for Mounted Sword class.

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wow that is bad x.x …

Should I try go hacka with a 1h spear class adn switch weapons?
I don’t really play a swordman before so I don’t know what to do with my Hacka now.
My main chars would be in Archer & scout tree

I myself dislike weapon swap on swordsman classes, so I do not recommend it. Right now I know of 3 hacka builds without weapon swap (they use sword + shield):
Templar, pelta, hacka (low damage)
Pelta, rodelero, hacka (still lowish damage)
Rode, templar, hacka (still lowish damage)

If you dislike sword, you can give your 1-handed sword to Scout.
Scout uses sword + [dagger or pistol]. Sword = bonus stats. And give crossbow to archer. No need to play a tree you dislike.

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no xbow archer available now when Cannon go 2h like other archers
Bow, Musket, Cannon

I have my Velcoffer weapons ready for Re:build: +21 Gun, +21 Cannon, +16 dagger, +15 cannon, +15 shield, and making a shiny rod for my sorc. All of them can share eq.
So if a good dmg hacka build avail with swap weapon (they have swap now?) I can make a 1h spear. If nothing avail I might quit hacka. Because it seems all hacka with only 1h sword now is not good enough.

If you enjoy quarrel shooter you could go xbow + shield archer. But: no mergen, no cannon, no musketeer for this build. Quarrel lost running shot and gained Block&Shoot: doubles your block, and after blocking an attack your next attack will crit 100%. Defensive class. Also you will have 3 archers then: 2 with cannon build and 1 with crossbow build.

Yes swordsman have auto-swap like archers now. I am sorry I cannot recommend you a hacka-hybrid other sword build. I have not found a good combo for hacka yet.

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That Qs seems fun but what can I do if no mergen/cannon or musket? xD
I will I switch recent xbow to other weapon because can’t invest more.
I might just make a new velco bow for Mergen or use recent +16 380 primus
I will have more invest on Scout tree because many visable builds there.

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Only options will be: hunter, sapper, wugushi, falconer. Also fletcher and ranger are available for crossbow + shield.
There is still some time for iTOS to prepare. I will wait for more tests and videos before I recommend a build.
I think you will enjoy the scout tree. Very fast skills.

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does that confirm that you can’t use block and shoot with auto swap?

Like if blocking and then using skill with 2H cannon auto swap will do guaranteed crit

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Not sure about that. Haven’t thought about checking this synergy. Someone also asked about block & shoot with pavise’s block effects.

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