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Announcement Regarding Price Changes and South American Server

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#227

That´s too basic for any company selling a product. If the local conditions(minimum wage) are not considered, the company is going to sell much less than intended. Brazillians really like this game because it´s like RO 2 for us. In RO We use or used to spend R$30 average or US$ 8.
To be affordable, the price for basic package needs to be maximum of U$10. Specially now that our economy is not going well.

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#228

VPN doesn’t work on steam. Accounts that uses VPN get banned.

#229

According to Wiki article, average monthly wage in the US is around 2800$

So, let’s use most basic math. 2800$ / 50$ = 56. So DLC1 costs 1/56 of average monthly wage.
According to another article, average monthly wage is 130E (145.6$), for Belarus 270E (302$) and for Russia is 370E (~414$).
Russian discount was 75% (or so) of 50$ = 12.5$ 414/12.5 = 33.12.

So even WITH regional price, Russians were paying almost TWICE MORE than Americans.

As for Ukraine, where i live, we didn’t have even that price, we had only -50%. With average wage being 145$ its 145/25 = 5.8, so it was ~1/6 of average monthly wage WITH REGIONAL PRICE. And now it’s MORE than 1/3 .
1/3, Carl!

US and EU were paying LESS, WAY LESS from the start. Like 10 times less compared to some countries. 10 times! And it’s 20 times LESS. 20 fkin times!

Equality!

P.S. As a person being dedicated to justice in every aspect of life since early childhood, i can’t describe how i despise people who are defending IMC position in that case.

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#230

Just move…its a server made just for you and oull have a much better playing experience, for yourself, and for those the Orsha server was intended for.

#231

r u crazy? Everyone can use VPN in steam with no penalty, too many people use for better route

#232

Hi @Staff_Julie @STAFF_John , as we can’t comment on the other topic, can you confirm the SA server location before we actually start sending our requests?

Thank you!

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#233

Hi, @Staff_Julie, @STAFF_John, I have a suggestion to reduce a bit discontent of people from CIS (as me) and other countries that had regional prices. I suggest to make a DLC which will contain only 1 untradable Token, and it should be affected to regional price reduction.

  • Most of us can’t afford its full price (me and my wife play together and our month income is ~550$, most of that money spends on daily needs, not even every month we can save about 10% of income for hobbies/travels)
  • Token is some kind of gamebreaking option, it’s must have, first necessity item for any casual player, too much benefits (timesaving, more exp, trade , comissions, etc)
  • cosmetic items is not that big deal, it doesn’t affect game balance. We would be happy if you make it tradeble and other TP items too, to сover outlay from regional prices on token (someone would buy it for your RM price, we would buy it for silver in place of token)
  • If most of people from some region can’t afford to play on equal terms with others it’s a problem, and pirates will try to use it, or you should make regional server for them. (we live in such country, we work as other people all around the world, but due to economical reasons we get less money then some other people so it’s unfair to sell us first necessity item by the same price, it’s a discrimination, classism if you want. Yes we can obtain it from AH and you get your money from someone who was happy to born in succesfull country and sells tokens from AH, but if you think that people from some contries should spend X hours grinding to become equal to other, ok then, sexism, classism, what next?)
    P.S. Sorry for my english.
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#234

Yes, that is true, but I live in Romania and according to the same wiki the average wage here is RON 1892 which is like 420 eur and yet I paid 45 eur for this game. (because Ro is EU) That is more than 10% of the average salary. And I had no discount to begin with, price was always the same as for any other EU country. I know no one cares much cause maybe there are like 4 ppl from my country playing this game. Anyway I am used to this, as no game I ever played had regional prices.
I don’t think there can be any fair way sadly. On hand it’s not equality that we should pay less and get the same as someone from Germany for example, but then again a lot less fortunate ppl just won’t afford buying anything in the game anymore… (and someone never afforded anything to begin with)

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#235

It’s sad, budy. More to this in every contry there are ppl which salary is lower than average, that is why there are sale periods, and now you can get DLC for a half of usual cost, i hope sales will be regular thing. Just want to tell, that it is so sad and radiculous same time when DLS on sales cost 2 times higher then it was before.
Anyway, wish u good luck in game and IRL.

#236

Regarding Latency, i recently tested ping with this site, http://www.cloudping.info/
However klai and orsha are on US east, according to some info given before, at US East (Virginia) it gives me less ping than on SA (BR) i live in SA and it keeps me wondering if i should move, as in BR servers may be closer, but have crappier latency than US ones…

Also 85% will be portuguese and not all SA speaks it, in fact only 1 country does… :stuck_out_tongue:

#237

It’s not surprising, Brazil has one of the worst connections of the world.

#238

I live in São Paulo, Brazil and using the same site as you i got this:

Wonderful!!!

#239

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nice meme

#240

Hello Trump.
How are you?

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#242

So you come here to trump people… I see…

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#243

br will have the best of both worlds :’( good latency and less racism, while the rest of SA (they mentioned new server as in SA server right ?) will get just about same…

In fact, i can communicate in english but not in portuguese, if i move, ill get less communication and same ping… so maybe stay in Orsha is still a valid option, since its going to be portuguese free soon :smiley:

#244

Yes u can play bro, that english though…

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#245

Pretty sure company can hire 3 - 6 guys who will work as GM. Minimal wage students or whatever. Simple manual labor. Clicking buttons in-game to ban gold sellers and bots while other guys try to think of something else.

I’ve done this on RO servers. It’d be pretty much the same thing. I’ll do it. Gimme the job. I need money for tokens.

#246

52 ping is love <3 . Thnx for the tip

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#247

How cant you comunicate in portunhol if we all here do it all the time? I know there’s a huge prejudice about portuguese being the same as spanish, but the truth is, we can communicate if we want, without taking classes. And if you’re worried, the server will still be in english, since no translation was announced, and the same players who communicate in english here would be able to communicate in english there, you just need to ask.

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