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Wugu-Cannon build help!?

Hello! I’m trying to build wugu-cannon2 but my dillema is the ranks before those:

  1. Ar2 R1 Wugu3 Can2 - does steady aim works with DoT’s on wugu and bazooka on cannon?

  2. Ar2 Hun1 Wugu3 Can2 - idk the synergy of hunter on the build rather than just for pvp purposes with a buggy pet companion

  3. Ar3 Wugu3 Can2 - most optimal build i guess?

  4. dont like sapper but please enlighten me =]

what are the difference between this builds? can you guys help me pick one? thank you.
ps. going full dex

I’m also interested in this, since I’m considering rolling a canno for fun after all those buffs…

One of the reason couz ranger1 is not so common for cannoners is that they don’t use steady aim unless you run with your meltis buddy (the bazooka animation is so slow). Still, is by far the best filler at c3 unless you want consider scout 1 / hunt 1 simple for barrage, so I would stick with ranger1.

Builds I have in mind

A2Ranger1Wugu3Canno2
A2Ranger1Wugu2Rogue1Canno2
A2Ranger1Wugu2Falco1Canno2

Build 1 is the most clean to me, build 2 have the barrage/feint combo, build 3 has circling. To me, after the buff to buff wugu3 and bazooka the 1st build is the most appealing.

A2Sapper2Wugu2Canno2

This build looks a solid hybrid, but playing sapper2 without falconer and at the same time skipping wugu3 maybe is just asking too much and in the end is not affective at all. If you want to move into Sapper

A2Sapper2RogueFalconerCanno2

seems a much better focused sapper 2 build, IMO (granted this build lose any single target potential).

I would stick for A2XWugu3Canno2, even if I feel the C3 filler is kinda wasted no matter what I commonly play with a meltis user so ranger in the end will have sense over scout // hunter (HUNTER, IS THAT YOU? XD)

Any though? Sapper or Wugu for cannoners?

I’ve only input for the 2nd choice. Never take Hunter for PvP:

Reason 1: It has the longest travel time of any skill thanks to bad path finding.

Video of that

https://youtu.be/g73za_-m75M

Reason 2: The pet is extremely easy to kill rendering hunter useless.

Reason 3: with cannoner you’ll never have a reason to use hunter skills at all.

These reason apply to both PvE and PvP, if you’re going to take hunter, you’d probably take for a better reason than PvP. it is not a PvP class at all. it was possible to work around with it at rank 7, at rank 8 it is possible too. but, there are far easier and more rewarding alternatives that make hunter not a really bright choice.

So better take something that gives more utility to you, but if you just want to go ahead, you’ve been warned.

There isn’t really much choice left for r3. It’s either: qs2 (no), a2-r1 (maybe), ra2 (maybe), or x-hu1 (no). Here’s to hoping cannoneers get to buff while in [bazooka].

I’m eyeing a2-hu3-app-ca2 myself.

Btw, do we highjack this thread or make another 1? I don’t believe there’s a thread for just cannoneer talk.

runing shot dont work with cannon ?

Half of it does. You lose the attack speed.

why kneling shoot is good with cannon? if you cant use bazooka + kneling? its not better using bazooka? (its a true answer, i never play with cannoner and i want to understand why archer 3 > wugushi 3 > cann 2 is better than qs3 >wugu2 >cann2

Because kneeling shot gives crit chance and crit rate while bazooka gives damage. Kneeling shot is also faster to get in to. (Only need level 1 kneeling shot. A3 is a waste). It’s not exactly “good” for cannon, but it is another option.

You lost wugu 3. You do not want to lose jincan gu as well as higher uptime on poisons.

QS3 has specifc weapon dependency, the other doesn’t.

QS3 requires auto attacking, cannon has skills with 5 second cooldown. And you only get the damage bonus with running shot + bazooka no speed increase for the slow auto attack in bazooka. You will most likely be using your cannon skills during bazooka.

To me the kneeling shot was an attribute they added before changing their mind and further buff bazooka (removing the minimum range).

With this last buff to bazooka, now kneeling shoot attribute really looks like a waste, unless u want to go QS3 builds.

so kneling is better than bazooka?

worst by a huge margin, especially if u use bazooka to either buff wugu or sapper dmg, bazooka all the way.

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you think this bazooka buff wugushi poisons is some bug? and will fix later? dont make sense bazooka buff poisons too…

Given how horrible the class was and how it just becomed playable, I don’t think they are gonna rework the iterations anytime soon, and I’m quite positive it is working as intended in this form.

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They are just different. And that key difference is [kneeling shot] is just straight up faster to get into. The crit rate becomes pointless if you were already capped (very likely). It will only ever shine in mobile boss fights (I think) with high crit resist (very specific :sweat:).

The actual deployment speed of [bazooka] will determine the winner.

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If you plan to tak cannoneer 2 for Rank 7-8, I would like to suggest the A3 Wugushi3. That is my future plan for my new archer also. Indeed, you should take the ranger only if rank 7-8 you take muskeeter 2 or falcon mergen.

For the stat, I also suggest Full DEX, plate or leather set on your choice. However since you have archer 2+, you can move some points to STR if need. Crit rate for canoon will be always enough for sure.

Goodluck with new char and have a nice day~

i think steady aim snaps on your damage including DoT

unless you take Hunter 3 for growling, dont take hunter 1, read @Composition 's reply regarding that matter

so far, this build is ok. just know that there are other rank 4 class that you could use and remember your cannon will have a 5 sec cd skill and what ar3 really offers is just fillers.

with this in mind, id rather take a scout if i want to pvp. stealth, use cannon skills and poison and run away

wugu and cannon skill will carry you to pve fairly well

the sapper wugu cannon is good for spreading poison. Its easy to achieve with a simple broom trap, then wugong gu. and then blow them away w/ cannon skills. This is a very old build, still somewhat effective and good at what it does w/c is spreading poison. You’re gimped w/ having wugu2 though, but wugu2 is nice already so i think you can still live with it

I personally took hunter 1 for extra rotation against flying mobs. Since wugu poisons got decent long cds, I would rather use Snatching with bazooka mode to deal with flying mobs rather than waste either wu gong gu or gu pot. Also coursing helps a lot with spreading wu gong gu. I don’t like wasting my time trying to spread poison with multi shot or etc since I wanna get to bazooka mode ASAP. Biggest drawback is that the AI is trash tbh.

we really have to cope and accept the trashy AI pet has. It was intended. i read IMC state that somewhere, otherwise, Hunter would be OP and Hunter haters will increase

Ar3 R2 Falc1 Can2 = not good?

I’m not comfortable with Ranger 2 there, for me, its either Ranger 1 or Ranger 3 all the way. You can replace Ranger 2 there with Scout 1. This is just my opinion, I think Ranger 2 will work fine as well but not for me