Tree of Savior Forum

Worth playing? Dead game?

Game is death , and it can;t come back with rank 8 cause only 3-4k ppl for 6 server = 500ppl/ 1 server and bot take 50% of population .
Just waiting for it death .

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I give it another six months before Klaipedia and SEA dies like the EU, Orsha server.

Then we’ll see if it’s still fun like some say.

huehuehue

They did mention channel adjustment i think. It might be my imagination, but i have been leveling up a new char since the patch and spawn rate seems better on some maps? idk. I didnt see anyone saying anything about spawnrates. Are people saying its worse now?

I think your opinions on how “white knights” think is wrong for the most part. The ones you call white knights tell imc what the issues are too. I really havent seen anyone say the game is perfect and imc shouldnt change anything.

SOME of your complaints are good. Other things you do is bad. Like intentionally turn off players and try to demoralize people who play it. Like ive said before.

New player: "Hows the game doing? im thinking about playing."
You: "Its dead, just look at this chart huehue"
New player: "ok i wont play then. bye"
You: “ooh now the chart will be even more pretty for the next ones huehue”

This does nothing to help the game or get the changes you want.

Im not sure if you consider me a white knight, but i have been on the forums for a while and i always tell imc what i think needs to be changed. I do have cosmetics and stuff, but that is from early access TP. Havent spent anything since.

Anyway, i need to sleep. I do think you care about the game. Im not sure i can say the same about some of the other trolls. I just wish you guys would have less destructive ways of trying to get the changes you want. Goodnight.

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Like @siete once said

tl;dr

Just wait for rank 8 and see what happens. It is to be expected that its coming out soon. I will wait a couple of says, read the forum and decide then if im going to bother to buy a token again.

i’ve got more , but u get what im trying to say…

i give a real-expectation so newbie wont be disappointed by the ingame-fact

im actually doing IMC the favor here, setting correct expectation to correct crowd, so chosen-player will stay with the game instead of try 20hours then leave bad comment in steamreview.

55k people hop on the hype train, 50k disappointed, 5k remaining struggling with whatever workaround to force themselves thinking the game is still fun…

again, i wish the best for TOS, i believe IMC can still do better…

if staying low-profile and happy-go-lucky attitude would solve problem, i wouldnt be this upset/vocal to see my favorite game in this state now…

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Trolling / Bashing the sh!t out of the game won’t solve anything either.
Some people really believe that causing more troubles will make whoever’s in charge come out and fix things sooner.

listening to j.wonno would fix the game

yey, i found the solution

it was j.wonno all these while

yey excrulon quit

dixoutforexcrulon

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Well, that is a twisted knife. While a toxic comunity is nothing good for newcomers, some companies literally needs a permanent asskick.
If we stop complaining all the time they just stop doing anything here. An angry comunity is actually the product of a lazy developer/publisher.

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oooo yayyy, now i gotta say something irrelevant

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Complaining is good, and i never said we should stop doing so. It’s just that all the sh!t posters here aren’t just complaining you see. Its beyond that. I’m sure you know what i mean.

Comebacks are always possible.
As long as they work hard to do so. Taking from the initial effort IMC is putting into the game which is nearly 0, then yes It’s impossible for it to comeback, however if they star fixing ■■■■ we’ve already pointed out a long time ago and actually make iToS the same as kToS (Content wise), maybe.

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IMC realized it’s not worth the cost to save the game anymore.

But it’s always nice for them to release TP items and generate money from this half-dead cash cow.

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The first months are the main phase where the vast majority gives the game a chance or drops it and that is also the time were uptimes must come quickly AND frequently in order to satisfy the crowd. The updates IMC delivered combined with the nonsense Q&As are a joke and now they get the bill for it.

It will be very hard to have comeback since a big amount of players were so disappointed that they arent willing to give the game a 2nd chance.

Personally I will play r8 a couple of weeks and quit then as there is no content that keeps me online.
PvP sucks balls because of heavy balancing issues that start by allowing attribute lvls and always create a big gap between “I play 1 character for 5 years” and newcomers that have like 50 lvls less in attribute. Not to mention some mechanics are retarded and op/unfriendly designed for PvP.
PvE is just grind for attribute or gear and is not fun at all since there are not many weapons around those have not options to improve besides the trancendence crap.
GVG is just AHAHAHAHAHAHA 2 fps LMAO
Boss hunting is bullshit with the utterly stupid ranking system and boss debuff that doesnt help at all since its only charbound and somebody like me with 6 r7 chars gives no ■■■■.

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Is glad band really that good??
I can take off my animus, both my wizard bracelets, and still be #1-3 dps pretty much anywhere.

like the game TOS itself, its overated

but the only good thing available.

you wont die without it, but it makes you less cool if everyone in your neighborhood has it

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Your avatar image is cancer. :slight_smile:

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Naw, I just like baiting sheep, its hilarious.

Gladiator Band turns into Sissel, which is essentially the best right now for any Dex-hungry Classes. Archers like it, Fencers like it, and maybe even Monks as well.

But I mean, it’s great. The community complains about people not coming in/low population, but when people ask about coming back in they’re the quickest to demoralize, scare tactic, and push people away to go back to complaining about low population. It’s a great circle jerk that shows the hypocrisy of the band of doom crusaders, which is unironically the same 10 people.

This game is far from perfect and if we’re going by Ragnarok-timeline it’ll take at least a year and a half before massive improvement is really shown, just like it’s improvised big brother (It’s been 6 months, RO took arguably 2~3 years of scrutiny before most people flocked onto the WoE train and fell in love with it). Some people don’t want to wait that long, and that’s fine. I already see notable improvement in the game since release, which was 100% a shitshow.

The only thing I wish is that IMC gets some more staff to maintain our version along with the Nexon versions. Nobody wants to be second in terms of treatment and it shows as it always happens when porting a game outside of Korea. Korean games always are treated like royality, and they’re willing to treat the rest of the world like garbage in the process. Happened in every single kMMO I’ve had the graces of playing with or without publishers, and will probably continue happening until later on. The only exception I’ve seen to this is Neople, but even Neople has to deal with a pretty toxic community. Nowhere close to this because they do indeed moderate, but you see my point.

tl;dr Play the damn game with some friends and have fun. It’s what a game is for, enjoyment.

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you want to plant fake hope, oh, there is no bot, oh galok is fine for questin, oh, dungeon queue is ok anytime of the day

but its buggy/exploit/hack … what do you hope me to do?

Get 5 friends to massacre popolion and call it fun?
Act like bunch of retard taking selfie costume and post?

core content tbl/gvg is beyond enjoyable… bugs/exploit/imbalance
PVE WB is a camping competition.
Item farming is RNG as fcuk…

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