Yeah, when I meant expectation, I meant people expected them to not be terrible and have to play them complete differently from what other games’ Swordsman normally do, or not play them at all.
Also, I’m curious; what’s your build?
Sword 3 cata 3 dragoon.
I do over 30k just by rush alone, sometimes I catch 2 = 60k, so damage is not really an issue for me.
I really hope situation is better for me when rush status resistance get fixed. But even then whenever I touch warlock I die. Dark thurge easily explodes for 15-20k on top of me, and pole of agony touch for 800-900 each, 3 times per seconds, for 8 seconds <.<
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I’m guessing you’re optimally equipped, with high STR?
400 STR and 100 CON, with max petamion, if that’s what you are asking.
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Curious as well, how much accuracy do you have?
I guess that’s what I’m asking when it comes to equipment? (had to look up what a max petamion was; HOLY F*CK)
Is having that much STR really the only way you’re going to be capable in PvP/GvG? High DEX probably isn’t very viable, is it? (Magic just f*cks you up either way so that doesn’t worry me)
100 DEX with Roxona plate glove and some random collections give me 430 accuracy. No it’s not enough to hit high DEX char, but it is enough to get the average archer
With today patch giving block penetration to STR, yes, high STR is the only viable way to go. You deal damage and you can penetrate the block of high CON + Aias. Cata can even penetrate stone skin thanks to the +40% block pen increase attribute.
Problem is you will have zero defense against magic, and though I don’t want to admit it, like Mirarara said, you really have to play smart as a swordman to get by <.<
5v5 battle always start with my swordman skipping through a mine field of raise, zaibas, magnetic force, frost cloud etc. And when I get to the back of enemy line, I need to carefully avoid cryo, kino and warlock (sometimes that’s the whole enemy team lol) and then proceed to rush kill or kidnap 1 of them depending on situation. Most of the time I die because I accidentally touch cryo or warlock (ping + FPS drop)
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Jeez… sounds like even if you play smart you lose most of the time… Like playing a light in World of Tanks…
Also… F*ck my build then! went 2:1 DEX/STR with about 40 CON so far. No plans on rerolling, guess I’m out. =P
We both nearly have the same amount of accuracy. I’m really so envy of Rush AOE, Pouncing is just too hard to hit even with the increase in speed.
I always wait for them to clash, then I’ll do my thing when FPS starts dropping. lmao.
Dark Theurge is bs. Warlocks can just come at me facefront and I’ll die coz of that bs skill.
You don’t know the pain of knockdown users! You don’t know!
They should give out or sell stat reset potion real soon. With all these changes around swordman many builds are screwed up.
imo focusing on dex is better in pvp, con and dex is the way to go, con for obvious reasons and dex to heat those annoying full evasion archers
thats how you maximize pvp performance atm until we’ll havem ore accuracy options
Spending money on this game at this point is not worth it to me, I rarely play the game as is since… it just isn’t very fun. Full STR doesn’t really fit with Corsair too well, but if it’s REALLY the way to build for PvP then I guess it would be worth it.
whatever people say about sword man good or bad
just look at the top ranking in iToS and KrToS, you will know it
so sword man all over the word are retard shiet that only few of them are up to top 100 ?
the problem is sword man sucks so bad, also this game mechanic and the OP magic class destroy sword man easily
they should made another separate PvP league that only sword man can join so they can be have a fair duel with the same class 
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I’d love to see magic have an accuracy check so Wizards have a reason to touch DEX at all. Why should the rest of the classes have to invest in 2 to 3 stats while Wizards can get away with only investing into one?
that 's why i mention this game mechanic sucks
physical class: need 3 stat STR, CON, DEX
magic class: with animus: only need CON without animus need INT, CON
also
physical attack: can be dodge or block
magical attack: cannot do anything about it
physical defense: easier to stack via equipment and skills
magical defense: harder to stack via equipment and skills
so even a kid know which one is better
tree of magic approved
this may hurt people but
BETTER REROLL MAGIC CLASS IF YOU WANT TO BE SOMETHING IN PVP OTHER THAN MASOCHIST PHYSICAL CLASS PLAYERS
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you know who dies first in war and battles (be it in movies or games)
Foolish SWORDSMANS
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Without STR you cannot kill wizard or cleric, their block is too high. DEX is as good as a gimmick for swordie right now. Let the wizard deal with archer.
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Hell, with or without Animus all Wizards need is CON. From what I read, INT only increases M.ATK by 1 per stat point. So, instead of investing into INT, Wizards can just buy their Attributes for 1% increases instead of a flat 1.
Why couldn’t DEX be the block penetrator? Dexterity is usually what’s needed to get around shield and getting into the open spots on armor, with STR it’s like they’re taking the Goku/Picolo approach to penetrating armor (Just hit them really really hard.) Swordsman get that 30% STR bonus and Archers get the blck pen bonus either way, so why not?