atm i hate warlocks DT…stupidest OP skill hope they nerf it more >…>
“i still think swordsman is in a good spot” lmao
People ARE LAZY, they could “try hard” to perform well with a swordsman, or they could just simply faceroll with other classes.
People tends to do the easier choices for a reason, because its easy.
I can say that 90% of the swordsman I met in arena (both enemy and ally) is stupid before I get into the high ranking. Besides, 99% of the swordsman I met in grinding or mission or dungeon is plain retarded that makes me hate partying in this game.
There are one or two swordsman that’s actually helpful by utilizing the class well, but it’s so rare that I assume all swordsman is retarded.
Every swordsman I met is playing like they are some kirito, but the swordsman class itself actually rely on cooperation to be useful.
You sound really mad like a pyro having their balls kicked back in the day. Do you play swordie? if not why not roll one and show the 90% how it’s done.
There is no reason to. I love to watch noobs complaining about their class sucks when it’s their personal skill is having problem, even if I had seen better player utilizing swordsman to carry my arena match.
Keep on believing that swordsman is an useless class then.
if you think “just by playing the right way” makes swordsman strong, then show us how its “supposed” to be done. the way you are saying things right now shows us you know a lot about the class. then go on, show us how it is done.
tbh, I’ve met more facepalming wizards and archers that doesn’t even have a clue what the class does and is just playing them because they are “meta”. only players playing swordsman right now are those who just loves the class and is actually trying to make the class viable.
but yeah I would never agree on those C-button forever swordsman. effin’ tards.
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You do know that archers can spam knockback so fast with heavy shot that they pin people to walls until they’re dead, right?
You do know that full draw is a 15s disable for up to two people with only a 20 second cooldown, right?
Coursing is up to 35 seconds of complete disability with a 9 second cooldown.
Retrieve is up to 14 seconds of disable and 1-shot damage with a 10 second cooldown.
Hunter pets are better than swordsmen in every aspect. Funny how you have no idea what you’re talking about but post anyway.
I suspect you’re a baddy wizard like satoru that died to a swordsman once and thus have a pathological need to jump in with “i’m not crap for dying to a swordsman once with a completely overpowered wizard that must mean swordsman is good im not a baddy rly pls say im not ■■■■”!
You’re defending yourself before the accusations even come-- how much more obvious could it be that you’re guilty?
The very fact that you’re even doing such a thing proves you wrong.
It’s not a coincidence that you all just happen to be completely overpowered beyond belief wizards.
Mind bringing up the one or two builds these guys used to deem them useful?
ok I just tried 2 vs 2 PvP today as Swordsman (barb/corsair) and…
Jesus ■■■■■■■ Christ it’s so bad and unfun
Swordsman have no chance in PvP… it’s impossible to hit someone with stun. People are so mobile that you can’t hit them with helm chopper/seism and even with hook (aiming in keyboard mode is fucked up…). Not to mention CC resist is also a joke. I managed to somehow use 2x Helm Chopper and 1x Seism on warlock that decided to stop for a sec and that fucker didn’t got stunned and then he just destroyed me… WTF? full CON build + plate armor (tons of physical armor) + shield on Wizard class is retarded
Archers and Wizard just kite you all day with all the CC they have and in the same time they destroy you. Hunters are broken as ■■■■ with their pets that can hold you in place for eternity. Wugu posion are pure AIDS that kill you in seconds
And it’s confirmed what I was saying multiple times regarding scout: giving ranged class INVISIBILITY is the most retarded idea ever.
You won’t be able to do jack ■■■■ vs Scout/Rogue Archer build.
I had such character 2-3 times in party and it was disgusting to watch. He just insta gibbed every Archer or Wizard appeared on screen so whole match was actually 1 vs 2 and my role was to just somehow grab another person with hook. Then I got matched vs few other rogues and it was the most unfun/demotivating thing I had today.
I can at least try to fight vs archer I can see so I can dash and try to hit him with stun or hook in melee range if I’m not perma stunned/knockedback BUT not vs invisible archer that stab me or my ally in butt and then RIP
I think that cutting your own fingers would be more fun than PvP in ToS as Swordsman class
Swordsman need class with strong long invis spell (give it to Corsair instead of Open Chest, after all Corsair is suppose to be pure PvP class). It will help with aiming all those stuns/knockbaks/hooks/etc.
Sure Shinobi have it but it’s short (8 sec duration max) and have long ass cooldown, not to mention it’s bugged and sometimes enemies can still see you lmao.
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Crossguard? Shield?
Physical damage should be the least of your concern.
The time you spent to distract the archer can be made used by your teammate to help you.
I don’t know how you guys are playing your swordsman. What I do know is, the swordsman in my guild is being extremely useful in GvG and TBL, when they are given proper support.
Just because a class require good coordination with teammate doesn’t means that the class itself sucks.
Mind you, I never get defeated by swordsman in PvP because all of them are retarded. But I do know that they can defeat me if they actually waited for 1 or 2 seconds, or used the correct skill on me.
Sword 3 Cata 3 Dragoon don’t need much description. In fact, a funded catagoon nearly became no 1 in Telsiai if he actually stopped before losing 2 or 3 matches at 2 days ago.
Corsair can use Iron Hook to help your DPS.
Barb 3’s pouncing is great at countering bloodletting and prophecy. The combo with Cleave enable you to finish off even high CON build provided that you have decent attribute.
Squire can capture, works well with elememe.
Rodelero can tank through magic and knockdown your enemy.
What most swordsman is doing wrong is that, they thought that they are the frontliner or DPS, which in fact they are not. Swordsman is more of a support role, and you should play him in PvP like how you play as a chrono 3. You focus on CC-ing enemy whenever they are on cooldown, and helping to distract damage from archer (again, physical damage is your least concern if you are a highlander or peltasta).
It’s not easy to put this into practice though. Chrono 3 is not easy to play in TBL (the skill floor is really high), it’s even harder to ask a swordsman to think like a support, where you focused on maintaining a high win rate (winning 6 out of 10 matches) instead of getting a top DPS and lose the game.
I wish that I can do that, but I’m not going to waste my time grinding a character that I hate to play.
I never play swordsman in any MMORPG I played (I only play magician or healer type). I just hate the concept of swordsman itself.
I do research into how every class works such that I can fight them effectively in PvP though. It’s surprising to me how the swordsman user don’t even use their class to full potential, because of how they are stuck to the mindset where swordsman should be rushing front and attack.
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You can’t block while disabled by archer ■■■■. Blocking an archer is a perfect way to get 1-shot by a broken wizard. Hunter pets go right through block and CC until you’re dead. Hunter pets ignore defense. Hunter pets are stronger than swordsmen.
Please stop posting you’re an embarrassment even to drooling push-1-button to win wizards.
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How the fk are you going to get disabled, crossguard DO block archer’s disable (not sure about hunter as I don’t really see them in TBL). Also, in higher ranking most of the time you have a PD that prevent you from being CC’ed, while you can freely knockback your enemy as your knockback pierce PD’s bloodletting.
I’m sorry if at your current ranking you can’t see a PD in every team.
Also, I’m assuming both team has player of equal skill level. The time taken by archer to try to pierce your crossguard is enough for your team’s wizard to fk them up.
I’m not implying that swordsman can win 1v1 matchup. But if played as a support, swordsman can turn the tide of 5v5 matchup.
PD doesn’t prevent most of the deadliest disables. I’m getting the impression you’ve never even queued for TBL once.
Most of the unblockable AOE disable can be easily avoided. You deserve to lose if you actually get caught by those without any preemptive CC. There isn’t much hunter and falconer in my server so I don’t really know about those.
Please post a video of yourself avoiding an aoe disable which is cast on top of you- especially magnetic force.
You’re only used to seeing enemy monsters cast sleep centered around themselves because you’re clearly a pve only players and that isn’t how it works.
If you are retarded enough to get caught by magnetic force without being disabled first, you deserved to lose in PvP.
Please post a video of yourself avoiding a magnetic force which is cast on you.
Thanks. (You won’t, it’s clear you’re not capable of anything at all except pathological lying- you literally suggesting holding C to disable and root yourself )
I’m sorry, but I never had any magnetic force that’s being cast on me. Why would they even get any chance to?
It’s too easy to bait them into whiffing the magnetic force. Magnetic Force has a cast time which you can easily use to bait them.
The only time I will get caught by magnetic force is when I get telekinesis’ed due to lack of PD.
Wut? I’m suggesting to hold C or crossguard when the damage nearly hit. Make use of your invincibility frame, dude.
You are aware that magnetic force pulls from offscreen the aoe is so big? No?